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A CASHLESS SOCIETY = Trickle Down Poverty — David Smith

by SGT, SGT Report.com:

It’s clear now that the international Banksters want to roll out their cashless society as quickly as possible. David Smith, Senior Analyst at The Morgan Report warns we could see the banning of cash in the United States come quickly, depending on how the Indians react. A revolt in India might slow the bankers’ plan. But if the Indian people stand for it, the Banksters will steam roll ahead, and a “cashless society” will result in “trickle down poverty” – more for the elite and less for the people. Smith also talks about his new book with David Morgan titled Second Chance, which you can buy HERE.

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67 comments to A CASHLESS SOCIETY = Trickle Down Poverty — David Smith

  • fonestar

    Oh you guys are such defeatists it’s so sad listening!!

    Don’t you know that THEIR “cashless society” is going to live 6 months to 1 year?

    There’s so many reasons why a cashless society will not work. Mainly because people who hold gold and silver are not going to sell it for digital fiat. Also, people will just trade in their inflationary state fiat for deflationary non-state digital currencies like Bitcoin/Litecoin/DASH, etc..

    fonestar is definitely not sweating their cashless society at all. I’m looking forward to the laughs actually.

      • fonestar

        WTF does that have to do with anything? Who keeps their BTC in an exchange anyway?

      • Craig Escaped Detroit

        @Eric, yes, I’m sure that fonestar & Mike noticed that too. The first of MANY actions by TPTB to control every type of competition.

        Gold, Silver, ammo, food, fuels, booze, tobacco, drugs, etc. Venezuela is coming here, sooner than most people can believe.

        Everything is so screwed up in all the money, banks, markets, and NO manufacturing, and less than 5% of Americans live on farms, etc. we are primed to become a 3rd world nation for the next 30-100 years.

        Just look at Mexico, Africa, etc, they’ve been in the toilet for more than 200 years, and no signs of improvement. We can be just like them. Thankfully, we have a much better climate that is good for growing things than many places on this planet. It’s a blessing. (unless you’re unfortunate to be living in one of the DRY or frozen regions of America).

        Sad to know that Fukushima is putting “Atomic rain” on the entire western regions of North America and the Pacific ocean is quickly becoming a dead zone from it.

        Sad to know that all the big cities can quickly become another dead zone, with starvation, fires, and disease (and of course, BLM riots, looting crime, etc).

        Sad to be living in a flood zone, earthquake fault, down wind from any big pipelines, tank farms, nuke plants.

        Anybody who is living within 1 mile of any sea shore and less than 100ft altitude/elevation, or on a steep hillside, is asking for disaster.
        Mountains have rock slides. Volcanoes (and Yellowstone) are not safe places either.

        Have you ever looked at the “deadly ash fallout zones” from previous Yellowstone eruptions? All the way to Georgia! Microscopic glass that destroys lung tissue and would kill at least 20 or even 35% of everybody living in the USA from shredded lung cells. Another good reason for dust makes, respirators and powered air filters and good (HEPA) furnace filters, etc.

        • glitter 1

          “Sad to know that Fukushima is putting “Atomic rain” on the entire western regions of North America and the Pacific ocean is quickly becoming a dead zone from it.”
          CED,

          Don’t believe all the hype about Fukushima “Fall Out Killing The Pacific” it’s not.When people don’t know about/understand something they will succummb to misinformation and some out right disinformation.There is more going on in the Pacific that has nothing to do with Fukushima.

          IMO, the people controlling the Democratic Party will have more to do with the ongoing/future destruction of the US than any perceived radiation from Japan.

          • Craig Escaped Detroit

            From Michael Snyder’s postings (from 2014, and the flow rate of highly radioactive

            http://www.thedailysheeple.com/36-signs-the-media-is-lying-to-you-about-how-radiation-from-fukushima-is-affecting-the-west-coast_012014

            36 Signs The Media Is Lying To You About How Radiation From Fukushima Is Affecting The West Coast
            January 1, 2014 | Michael Snyder | The Truth | 3,009 views

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            The west coast of the United States is being absolutely fried by radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster, and the mainstream media is not telling us the truth about this. What you are about to see is a collection of evidence that is quite startling. Taken collectively, this body of evidence shows that nuclear radiation from Fukushima is affecting sea life in the Pacific Ocean and animal life along the west coast of North America in some extraordinary ways. But the mainstream media continues to insist that we don’t have a thing to worry about. The mainstream media continues to insist that radiation levels in the Pacific and along the west coast are perfectly safe. Are they lying to us? Evaluate the evidence compiled below and come to your own conclusions…

            #1 Independent researchers have measured alarmingly high levels of radiation on the beaches of the west coast. For example, the video posted below was taken on December 23rd, 2013 at Pacifica State Beach. As you can see in this video, radiation levels near the water are up to five times higher than normal background radiation…

            #2 According to Oceanus Magazine, the total amount of cesium-137 that has been released into the Pacific Ocean from Fukushima is 10,000 to 100,000 times greater than the amount released into the oceans by the Chernobyl disaster or by the atmospheric nuclear weapons tests of the 1960s.

            #3 Former MSNBC host Cenk Uygur has admitted that while he was at MSNBC he was instructed not to warn the public about the radiation coming from Fukushima…

            “I was on MSNBC at the time when this happened, I said, “Don’t trust what the Japanese government is saying, they’ll say trust what the electric power company is saying. Go, go, go, get outta there. Get as far away from that plant as you can. It’s literally a core meltdown.” And they always don’t want people to panic, so they were always like, “Oh it’s going to be okay.” […] I’m like, “You’re crazy man, don’t be anywhere near that reactor.” And I remember at the time, of course not at The Young Turks, but on cable news, people were like, “Hey Cenk, you know, I don’t know that you want to say that, because the official government position is that it’s safe.” Oh, is that the official government position? Now go explain that to the people who served on the USS Ronald Reagan.”

            #4 71 U.S. sailors who assisted with the initial Fukushima relief efforts have developed serious diseases such as testicular cancer, thyroid cancer, Leukemia, “unremitting gynecological bleeding” and brain tumors since that time as a result of exposure to radiation coming from Fukushima.

            #5 Something is causing starfish all along the west coast of the United States to literally disintegrate into piles of “white goo“…

            Researchers say nuclear pollution from the 2011 earthquake in Japan that damaged the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant could be partially to blame for a disease wiping out starfish along the West Coast.

            Dr. Peter Raimondi of the University of Santa Cruz says something is making starfish susceptible to whats believed to be a bacteria coined “Wasting Disease.” It essentially disintegrates the marine invertebrates into a white goo, after the starfish loses its legs.

            #6 Bald eagles are dying in unprecedented numbers in Utah, and nobody can figure out why this is happening…

            Bald eagles are dying in Utah — 20 in the past few weeks alone — and nobody can figure out why.

            Hundreds of the majestic birds — many with wing spans of 7 feet or more — migrate here each winter, gathering along the Great Salt Lake and feasting on carp and other fish that swim in the nearby freshwater bays.

            Earlier this month, however, hunters and farmers across five counties in northern and central Utah began finding the normally skittish raptors lying listless on the ground. Many suffered from seizures, head tremors and paralysis in the legs, feet and wings.

            #7 Huge numbers of dead birds are dropping dead and washing up along the coastlines of Alaska. It is being reported that many of the carcases of the dead birds are “broken open and bleeding”.

            #8 The recent deaths of thousands of birds in Oregon is absolutely baffling scientists.

            #9 Something is causing large numbers of seals and walruses up in Alaska to lose hair and develop “oozing sores”.

            #10 Substantial numbers of polar bears along the coast of Alaska are suffering from fur loss and open sores.

            #11 There is an epidemic of sea lion deaths along the California coastline.

            #12 The population of sockeye salmon along the coastlines of Alaska is at a “historic low”.

            #13 Something is causing Pacific herring to bleed from their gills, bellies and eyeballs.

            #14 Dangerous levels of cesium-137 have been discovered in mushrooms and berries grown along the west coast.

            #15 According to an absolutely shocking report put out by the National Academy of Sciences, it has been proven that Pacific Bluefin tuna have transported radioactive material “across the entire North Pacific Ocean”…

            “We report unequivocal evidence that Pacific Bluefin tuna, Thunnus orientalis, transported Fukushima-derived radionuclides across the entire North Pacific Ocean.”

            #16 Something seems to be causing a substantial spike in the death rate for killer whales living off of the coast of British Columbia.

            #17 Experts have found very high levels of cesium-137 in plankton living in the waters of the Pacific Ocean between Hawaii and the west coast.

            #18 One test in California found that 15 out of 15 Bluefin tuna were contaminated with radiation from Fukushima.

            #19 Back in 2012, the Vancouver Sun reported that cesium-137 was being found in a very high percentage of the fish that Japan was selling to Canada…

            • 73 percent of the mackerel

            • 91 percent of the halibut

            • 92 percent of the sardines

            • 93 percent of the tuna and eel

            • 94 percent of the cod and anchovies

            • 100 percent of the carp, seaweed, shark and monkfish

            #20 An EU-funded study concluded that Fukushima released up to 210 quadrillion becquerels of cesium-137 into the atmosphere.

            #21 One very experienced Australian adventurer has stated that he felt as though “the ocean itself was dead” as he journeyed from Japan to San Francisco recently…

            The next leg of the long voyage was from Osaka to San Francisco and for most of that trip the desolation was tinged with nauseous horror and a degree of fear.

            “After we left Japan, it felt as if the ocean itself was dead,” Macfadyen said.

            “We hardly saw any living things. We saw one whale, sort of rolling helplessly on the surface with what looked like a big tumour on its head. It was pretty sickening.

            “I’ve done a lot of miles on the ocean in my life and I’m used to seeing turtles, dolphins, sharks and big flurries of feeding birds. But this time, for 3000 nautical miles there was nothing alive to be seen.”

            In place of the missing life was garbage in astounding volumes.

            “Part of it was the aftermath of the tsunami that hit Japan a couple of years ago. The wave came in over the land, picked up an unbelievable load of stuff and carried it out to sea. And it’s still out there, everywhere you look.”

            #22 It is being projected that the radioactivity of coastal waters off the U.S. west coast could double over the next five to six years.

            #23 The deputy chairman of Russia’s State Duma Committee for Natural Resources, Maxim Shingarkin, says that seafood captured off the northwest coast of the United States is so radioactive that it represents a “danger for mankind”…

            “Currents in the world ocean are so structured that the areas of seafood capture near the U.S. northwest coast are more likely to contain radioactive nuclides than even the Sea of Okhotsk, which is much closer to Japan. These products are the main danger for mankind because they can find their way to people’s tables on a massive scale.”

            #24 According to one recent scientific report, radiation from Fukushima could affect our seafood for “many generations” and ultimately kill more than a million people…

            This cycle will last for many generations, because of the food chain of fish and other marine fauna, and the radioactivity will be recycled and in fact the meat content will increase rather than decreasing by decay. Even if only one one-hundredth of the radioactivity (more than 1e15 Bq of CS137) were to enter this recirculation pattern, the collective whole body ingestion dose over many generations would exceed 1e7 Sv, sufficient to kill more than 1,000,000 people.

            #25 The Japanese government has estimated that approximately 300 tons of highly radioactive water is pouring into the Pacific Ocean from the destroyed Fukushima nuclear facility every single day.

            #26 A senior researcher of marine chemistry at the Japan Meteorological Agency’s Meteorological Research Institute says that “30 billion becquerels of radioactive cesium and 30 billion becquerels of radioactive strontium” are being released into the Pacific Ocean from Fukushima every single day.

            #27 According to Tepco, a total of somewhere between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have gotten into the Pacific Ocean since the Fukushima disaster first began.

            #28 According to a professor at Tokyo University, 3 gigabecquerels of cesium-137 are flowing into the port at Fukushima Daiichi every single day.

            #29 It is being projected that significant levels of cesium-137 will reach every corner of the Pacific Ocean by the year 2020.

            #30 It has been estimated that the entire Pacific Ocean will soon “have cesium levels 5 to 10 times higher” than what we witnessed during the era of heavy atomic bomb testing in the Pacific many decades ago.

            #31 The immense amount of radioactive material being released into the Pacific Ocean from Fukushima has caused environmental activist Joe Martino to issue the following warning…

            “Your days of eating Pacific Ocean fish are over.”

            #32 The Iodine-131, Cesium-137 and Strontium-90 that are constantly being released from Fukushima are going to affect the health of those living in the northern hemisphere for a very, very long time. Just consider what Harvey Wasserman had to say about this…

            Iodine-131, for example, can be ingested into the thyroid, where it emits beta particles (electrons) that damage tissue. A plague of damaged thyroids has already been reported among as many as 40 percent of the children in the Fukushima area. That percentage can only go higher. In developing youngsters, it can stunt both physical and mental growth. Among adults it causes a very wide range of ancillary ailments, including cancer.

            Cesium-137 from Fukushima has been found in fish caught as far away as California. It spreads throughout the body, but tends to accumulate in the muscles.

            Strontium-90’s half-life is around 29 years. It mimics calcium and goes to our bones.

            #33 Outdoor radiation levels at Fukushima recently hit a new all-time high.

            #34 According to the Wall Street Journal, it is being projected that the cleanup of Fukushima could take up to 40 years to complete.

            #35 Yale Professor Charles Perrow is warning that if the cleanup of Fukushima is not handled with 100% precision that humanity could be threatened “for thousands of years”…

            “Conditions in the unit 4 pool, 100 feet from the ground, are perilous, and if any two of the rods touch it could cause a nuclear reaction that would be uncontrollable. The radiation emitted from all these rods, if they are not continually cool and kept separate, would require the evacuation of surrounding areas including Tokyo. Because of the radiation at the site the 6,375 rods in the common storage pool could not be continuously cooled; they would fission and all of humanity will be threatened, for thousands of years.”

            #36 There are very alarming reports that new “unexplained plumes of radioactive steam” are rising at Fukushima. Japanese officials are not able to get inside and see what is causing these plumes. Some are speculating that the crisis at Fukushima just got a whole lot worse. The following is from a recent Ecologist article…

            Unexplained plumes of radioactive steam have been rising from Fukushima’s Reactor Building 3, Could a major meltdown be on the way?

            Fukushima’s Reactor Building 3 exploded on 13th March 2011 as a result of a hydrogen buildup, breaching the building’s containment and emitting a huge plume of radiation. The reactor itself is in meltdown.

            And now fresh plumes of steam have been seen coming out the structure. These have now been confirmed by Tepco, the owner of the nuclear plant, from 19th December onwards. The company believes the steam is coming from the fifth floor of the building.

            However it does not know the cause of the steam. Lethal levels of radiation and the physical damage to the structure have so far made entry and inspection impossible.

            If a full-blown meltdown does happen at Fukushima, it would be an environmental disaster unlike anything that we have ever seen before in human history.

            As we enter 2014, we are entering a time when the world is becoming increasingly unstable. The global economy is being shaken, political corruption is seemingly everywhere, evidence of advanced social decay is all around us and the earth itself is starting to groan and crack with increasingly regularity. But the mainstream media continues to insist that everything is going to be just fine. That is one of the reasons why I wrote my new novel. The American people deserve to hear the truth and be warned about the great challenges that are rapidly approaching.

            In the end, millions upon millions of people could end up getting seriously ill as a result of all of this radiation coming from Fukushima. Most of them will never even know why they have gotten sick.

            And if there is a major earthquake or a significant accident during the cleanup at Fukushima, we could actually see huge sections of Japan be evacuated permanently.

            It would be hard to overstate just how serious all of this is. But you won’t hear about this from the mainstream media. Their story is that “everything is okay” and they are sticking to it.

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            The fact that it is about 2 years old, means that it is worse today then it was back then. That is because Fukushima has NEVER been shut down, TEPCO admitted more than a year ago, that at least 400 tons of highly radioactive water is flowing into the Pacific every day. Degreed experts (in the nuclear field) such as Arnold Gunderson are trying to wake up the world to the very real problems presented by Fukushima.
            The “nuclear proctologist” (west coast resident) has worked with university, etc, to document the west coast devastation and has done Pacific survey all the way to Japan’s coastal area. I don’t know how to interpret the measured data, but the “before & after” photos of coast line shore life, sea bottom life, are undeniable.

            The Pacific has been dealing with all kinds of pollution, yes, that’s true. But I’d say, in my opinion, that the difference of the old, ongoing pollutions are like stubbing your toes into a table leg and Fukushima is like getting your leg caught in a tree-chipper. Big difference.

            On those occasions when I was reading thru the hard data and presentations by Arnie Gunderson & others, taking time to look at the becquerels, curies, EPA rad station data from various dates, birth defects and medical data, ocean data, air data, soil and plant life studies, it gets depression (as well as time consuming) to slog thru SO much information.

            I’ve learned enough to know that I am not comfortable with all I have learned, and yet I only scratched the surface. The medical publican of birth defect, thyroid, and other cancer data from CHERNOBYL, is being mirrored by data coming out of Fukushima, & west coast N. America, yet the government is keeping it “low key” so it’s easy to be missed by people who wish to dismiss it.

            Empirical data has been shown to rarely be able to over turn anybody’s self held beliefs or faith. It is human nature (psychology) to close the doors of the mind tighter and tighter when faced with data that conflicts with faith.

            As the sad old saying goes, “To those who BELIEVE, no evidence is needed, and for those who do not believe, no amount of evidence is sufficient.”

            I try to keep myself in the camp of those who shape my opinions based upon measurable evidence and solid data.

            Eye witness testimony is the worst, lowest reliable type.

            • glitter 1

              CED,

              I don’t care what Snyder posted in his rant,it’s all “Hearsay”,Show me the Biometric Data Spread Sheets,not unsubstantiated hype and I call it hype because of the orgs that are pushing it.I’m not down playing what happened/continues to happen at Fukushima because I know what happened there,I know it first hand.My first post on SGT was back in 2011,commenting about Fukushima(You can pull up the archieves and read them),because I’d just retired after 30+ yrs from a GE Mark V design Reactor here in NJ,
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster_Creek_Nuclear_Generating_Station

              Thirty years working with/around/rubbing shoulders with the Environmental Scientists,Health Physics Technicians,Chemistry Techs,Licensed Operators,Engineers,etc.Thirty years as part of the Emergency Response Organization along with participation in the live drills 2-3 times a year.The required continual annual training.I’m totally familiar with the hardware,testing,sampling,documenting.

              I was watching real time on TV when Fuku unit#3 exploded,I immediately knew what just happened,A Hydrogen Detonation and what caused it.A cold chill ran down my back,because I knew what was going on and what will be happening going forward.Believe me,no one knows what a disaster of biblical proportions Fukushima is better than me.

              Biblical Proportion:
              “Of or pertaining to a natural disaster or other cataclysmic event so immense that it brings to mind biblical accounts of horrific catastrophes. The tsunami wrought destruction of biblical proportions. (figuratively) By extension, of or pertaining to a thing or occurrence having vast size, extent, or consequences.”

              Yes,it was/is an environmental catastrophe for at least a 10 mile radius around the Plant Site,especially down wind on that day of the accident.It will be a challenging disaster to mitigate for the next 80-100yrs in my estimation.

              Yes the immediate area has problems,but it’s not killing the Pacific Ocean nor is it spewing radiation across the US.The facts do not support those scenarios.

              The video of that guy with his toy “Geiger Counter” Is really laughable.He has no clue what he’s reading/detecting.Is it Gamma,Beta,Alpha,Solar,x-ray,what?He’s reading is aggregate background radiation,which occurs naturally in the environment,i.e. Solar,mineral formations in the ground etc.A quality grade Geiger Mueller Tube or Ion Chamber requires calibration against a known source,which requires licensing to own/posses.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukBpdiA2NvI

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS9kC69vkgw

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7QYJKnagas

              Look at the NETC.com Site,read about what it does.

              https://www.netc.com/

              It’s reading,real time,Aggregate Background Radiation from all natural background sources.Investigate/Study what are the sources of Natural Background Radiation.

              https://www.netc.com/

              It is not registering “Radiation” from Fukushima.

              Next,show me the Scientific Biometric Sampling Spread Sheets of contaminated ocean water,Pacific Ocean Marine Life,Air Samples,Vegetation Samples.This is all elementary stuff if it exists.This is what would be required as evidence in a Court of Law to prove a point,everything else is just Hearsay.

              Let’s look at several alternatives,which may be accounting for some of the Marine Life Anomalies along the West Coast:

              http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/science/midocean-ridges-volcano-underwater.html?_r=0

              http://nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ocean-vent/

              http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/blue_planet/deep_sea/vents_seeps/

              Is there poisoning of Marine Life due to Extreme Ocean Floor Methane Releases,coupled with the very acidic/toxic Hydrogen Sulfide?

              http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/8401/20140805/fd-methane-plumes-seep-frozen-ocean-floors.htm

              How about HAARP and heating of the Pacific Ocean/Pacific Northwest.

              http://www.haarpstatusnetwork.com/2015/04/14/is-haarp-responsible-for-unexplainable-pacific-ocean-heat/

              Remember all the Dane Wiggins pieces?
              There’s more than Fukushima going on here.

              Also,there’s this:Dumping Of Nuclear Waste In Oceans

              https://www.google.com/#q=nuclear+waste+dumping+sites+in+the+pacific+ocean

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_disposal_of_radioactive_waste

              https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/31404684750.pdf

              The Navies et al have dumped tons in the World’s Oceans over decades,most of it in 55 Gallon Drums,which don’t last very long,especially in salt water.

              So, if “Radioactive Contamination Particulate(material)” in measurable,detectable quantities from Fukushima is present in Pacific Ocean Water and/or Marine Life,specifically from along the US West Coast,it should be easy enough to prove/verify via approved/accepted scientific methods.I need/want to see the certified/peer reviewed evidence.

              I stand with my original comment above,based on what I know from facts/ experience,not hyperbole.I came from that still grossly misunderstood world/industry and I’m not just saying it to support NP, because there are aspects of it I have personal concerns about.Actually, the practical science application of Nuclear Power Generation awes me,however other aspects really scares the crap out of me.

              • Craig Escaped Detroit

                @glitter1, I say BRAVO to you. Your lifetime of experience and depth of knowledge of this stuff, is amazing.

                (and yes, I felt guilty of doing a quote of something that Michael Snyder published, but at least I didn’t quote Bo Polny, eh? Hahaha)

                It way over MY head. And yes, there are so many pollution sources (and military too), HAARP “heaters”, yes. The list of bad “inputs” into the ocean(s) is long.

                I too was watching in real time, when the reactors blew apart. Yes, it is VERY chilling. It was interesting to note that another shelter has been installed over the Chernobyl site.

                Have you watched the documentary about it called “The Russian Woodpecker” (a very plausible, or more likely the real probable cause of Chernobyl). I promise you will find it worthy of your time, and also because of your depth of knowledge of the variety of topics.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Russian_Woodpecker

                It’s an amazingly well put together bunch of strings and dots, and the film maker had to leave the country because he stirred up TOO many (still active) hornet’s nests.

                I wish I had your level of the knowledge in your field so that I could “properly engage” you at your level, but I don’t. So I must stand aside and not make any further foolish of myself.

                That’s one of the great things about coming here to SGT, is the wide level of highly informed people (and a few road apples) that we have to keep us “engaged” in clever conversations.

                I have always admired & envied those people out there, who are SPEED readers with photographic memories. That level of development and high ability to absorb & understand so much so fast is nothing short of amazing. I’m just another one of the slow learners out there.

                • glitter 1

                  I appreciate your engagement,you are not a slow learner.It’s obvious you come from a vocation/line of work which developed your knack of/for practical and logical thinking skills.It’s obvious to me.

                  When you do something for most of your life,sometimes it’s easily taken for granted.I always felt very fortunate to have acquired the experiences I’ve had.I could unload for hours on some really cool stuff that most can not imagine.
                  After my first couple of commentaries here at SGT relative to Fukushima, Sean and Rory contacted me and wanted to do one of their interviews,however I declined at the time.Maybe because I didn’t want to subject myself to the trolls,which has happened on occasions.

                  I actually started my career as a classiclly trained Lineman/Cable Splicer,which came to an end as the result of the Three Mile Island Accident.I had to transfer to Oyster Creek in 1980 to keep employed due to company layoffs caused by the accident.

                  Anyway,I sure wouldn’t want to be someone/an employee working at Fukushima for a multitude of reasons.

                  And yes I did see what they did at Chernobyl and after 30 years.That huge cover is just to stabilize.It’s really just a big rain/weather cover for the damaged reactor in case the concrete sarcophagus collapses. They haven’t even done anything towards cleaning up/dismantling the damaged reactor,cause they can due to the high radiation levels.Did you notice how many counties were represented/financed the project.This what will be needed at Fuku,only it will take much longer with bigger challenges.It’s a real mess with no easy answers/solutions.

                • Ed_B

                  @Craig @Glitter

                  Well done, gentlemen. That was an excellent discussion. Information was transmitted that all of us can read and weigh. Name calling did not occur. It truly was one of the best exchanges here… ever. Congrats on that. 🙂

                • lastmanstanding

                  @Craig, @Glitter1, @ Ed_B…Craig, you are newer here Than the other 2 gents. They have been here at sgtreport pretty much since the beginning along with myself.

                  I still come here at least twice a day, just find it hard to comment much anymore do to the difficulty of it via my server, sgt hitting major nerves of the f*7kers, or some other matter with our satellite!

                  G1 and Ed are 2 of the most savvy commenters on the web today…along with Ed’s brother AGX12K over at silver docs…along with many others over there.

                  I visit the doc daily as well and have had nothing but password issues that have me prevented me from commenting over there as well.

                  Ed_B…if you see this, could you contact AGX since he is the moderator to see if he can fix this problem please? I’m sure he has access to my email address and is welcome to contact me.

                  Thank you all for your comments…keep up the good work.!

                  “don’t go down without one helluva fight”

                  ps…you to brother sgt!

                • Ed_B

                  @lastmanstanding

                  Will do… consider it done. Would love to read your posts over on SD. 🙂

                • glitter 1

                  @lastmanstanding,

                  Thank you for your kind comment,it really does kinda appeal to my EGO,lol,however I don’t consider myself as anything other just a normal guy who has been very fortunate to have had some great experiences up to this point in my life.This has afforded me some level of insight,logic and practicality towards a few subjects of which I have opinions,just like everybody else here.
                  We may not all agree on every subject or point,however,everyone has something to offer.All information/opinion has value/usefulness,imo.

                • lastmanstanding

                  @Ed_B…Thank you!

                  We don’t live that far out in the sticks, but the wind and storms that blow all year on the end of our mountain ridge cause sat issues often. Well though comment replies at the end of a long work day that get eaten end up with…”ah f-it…why bother?”

                  Looking forward to more conversations.

                • lastmanstanding

                  @Glitter1…thank you as well.

                  Those of us “further on in life” have had incredible life experiences. Everyone must be remembered and shared with any who will listen.

                  Whether they were good or bad doesn’t matter. Perhaps they will benefit someone/someday who was listening.

                  🙂

                • Ed_B

                  @lastmanstanding

                  OK, I contacted AGXIIK via email and he wants to resolve this issue. He asked if you use the same handle on SD and you do on SGT Report. I thought that you did but was not sure, so am asking here.

                  While he does serve as a moderator to help keep the discussion there civil, he is not an IT guy. But he knows them well and has all their email addresses. Once we know for sure what your handle is on SD, he will ask them for their help in resolving your login issues.

                  Sorry that you have had this trouble. Hopefully, they can either clear it up on their end or make some suggestions as to what you can do to help fix this from your end.

                  Let me know as soon as you can and I will get the ball rolling from there. 🙂

                • lastmanstanding

                  @ Ed_B. It is.

                  I contacted Doc a while back. (months) He sent me a temporary (what he called it) password. It was something like 50 letters/numbers and it worked for a while. One day it apparently had not been electronically saved either in my system or ran out a SD’s…not sure.

                  Until the past few days, it has been very difficult for me to even load sgt report…let along post a comment.

                  Whatever happens, I’m good. Thanks for your efforts and God Bless you and your family. Bill.

                • Ed_B

                  @lastmanstanding

                  OK, I will pass the word and see if we can get something going on this ASAP. I copied your last post and will include that in my email… might help. No problem on the assist. Good folks can be hard to come by. I know that you will be a good addition to the comments on SD, if we can get around this login problem. Hope to see you there soon. 🙂

  • Craig Escaped Detroit

    @Fonestar,
    I fully agree with you, even though I expect the government(s) to shut down / confiscate / corral all of the Bitcoin-exchange services, people WILL find clever ways to avoid and get around some of the cashless corral.

    I feel in my gut, that the government finally sees Bitcoin (and all the crypto-currencies) as a direct threat to their power, and they will be instituting various actions to fight against anything that threatens their systems. (I also think they will be morphing the blockchain into the new fiat system).

    We are in the early days of some very big & fast changes.

  • willygroper

    someone posted this bill on another site as a sound $$ policy reverting currency back to the treasury instead of frb.

    well, i don’t see it. looks more like A21 guaranteed income slave labor to me.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2990/all-info

    bills are always named to dupe as the do the opposite.

    • Ed_B

      @Willy

      “bills are always named to dupe as the do the opposite.”

      That they are. One need only look at a few of them to see that the bill names promise much but in the end deliver little. “The Affordable Care Act”? Really? It’s NOT affordable and it doesn’t care, so WTF? How about, “The Federal Reserve Act” to create a US National Bank that is no more federal than is Federal Express and has NO reserves? Practically all of the high-minded sounding bill names fail utterly to live up to the promised hype. IMO, all of them should contain a built-in sunset clause that terminates the law IF it does not deliver as promised. This would be a “truth in advertising” aspect as applied to the law and it’s more than time that we had something like this.

  • d

    When all hope is lost and the government wants all you have ‘left’….then some may relinquish their supply of lead, to those that want to ‘collect the tribute’…..imho

    • Ed_B

      Agreed @d

      And some of us have a great deal to contribute to this effort. At some point in all this we will arrive at a place called “use it or lose it”. We would all do well to remember this and to have our mind made up well before that time. I know that I do and suspect that you do as well.

  • Craig Escaped Detroit

    @glitter1, you started as a lineman/splicer? those $3000 hydraulic crimpers? awesome stuff, and that special goop, I’ve heard about it. So you’ve got some climbing harness rig experience eh?…or was it always out on a bucket-boom?

    I’ve got a lineman’s harness in the closet, & plenty of climbing & safety stuff to go with it…it was for the old dream of being able to put up a 1kw wind tower & being able to do my own servicing, but wind maps reveal this region ain’t worthy of it, & a tower foundation in this loose sand gets very big & expensive.
    I got too old & lazy for such ambitious work.

    I had picked up a pair of ‘new-old stock’ of 11mm dynamic (double dry), 150ft climbing ropes really cheaply a few years ago, still in the factory-sealed bags. (about 70% off)… mountain/arborist/rock/caving/canyoneering/rescue gear is quite interesting stuff. Always a good price to buy somebody’s unfulfilled dream stuff.

    There are plenty of unfinished kit planes out there too. I don’t have the ambition-energy anymore. Some lucky people always have good energy, but me? ZZzzzzzz.
    I can drink espresso & take a nice nap.

    • glitter 1

      I climbed poles,I played out of bucket & Platform trucks.We used the hydraulic crimpers,both electric and hand. I’ve used the big hydraulic heads that go up to 1,000 mcm(size of a forearm).I worked allot of URD(direct bury) like in underground developments.Also,classical network with lead cable,which is usually in urban areas(down town city).

      I still have my tools,ie. hooks,belt,hand tools,hard hat,15kv rubber gloves and sleeves.They are hanging in my shed.I kept them,my supervisor allowed me to keep them,when I was bumped to Oyster Creek in 1980.I guess he thought I would be back at some point,well that never happened,so I still have/keep my stuff as a memento,however my wife continually rags on me to get rid of it all.I was a pretty good climber back in the day,but that was 40yrs & 70lbs ago.

      I’ve seen/been where the power is generated all the way down stream to how/where it gets delivered to the house/business.It was a great time/experience at each step/phase along the way.
      In my mind I can still see me doing the work,but in reality my legs/back ain’t buying what my brain is selling.It’s tough getting old.

      • Craig Escaped Detroit

        @glitter1,
        I don’t know if you will know the technical specifics of this to give me an answer, but here goes.
        —————

        Can I use a 2X transformer (voltage doubler/ step up/ step down) to step up 120vac, into 240vac to properly run a 240v motor? Or is the “phase” situation wrong?

        I know that 120vac uses ONE HOT leg and one NEUTRAL, but 240V uses BOTH HOT legs (leads).
        I’m not trained as any kind of electrician, etc. Only heard the terms “single phase” and SPLIT PHASE (as well as 3 phase, etc) to refer to this stuff.

        If a 240V motor really needs both hot legs, then what is the danger or stress on the windings or the TIMING to be using a 2X boost of the 120v single HOT leg?
        —————

        This question is important for SOLAR panel home that will be running on a decent sized (5kw) 120VAC inverter (but it does NOT put out split phase or 240v)…. and I happen to have a well pump that uses a 240vac motor. There are various 220v (European) and 240V inverters out there, but they might be SINGLE Phase 220 / 240, and I’m back to my question again.

        There are inverters that output BOTH voltages (including the split phase), but those darn things cost from $3000-$5000. You can easily buy the 120v, 5kw (sine wave) inverters for less than $600. !!!

        • glitter 1

          CED,
          “Can I use a 2X transformer (voltage doubler/ step up/ step down) to step up 120vac, into 240vac to properly run a 240v motor? Or is the “phase” situation wrong?”

          The answer is no.You won’t have a phase issue.

          The term 1,2,3 phase has to do with the street transformer setup.Most residential electric services are 120/240v(2 hot legs & 1 nuetral) single phase refers to how many Primary(High Voltage)Taps/Leads are feeding the transformer.Single Phase=1 tap,Double Phase(Delta)=2 Taps,Three Phase=3 Taps

          You can’t get (3)phase from a typical residential service,only single phase,which is 2 hot legs(120/240V) and a neutral from the pole/street transformer.A (3)phase service,usually for a business that utilizes a (3)phase motor,which are 240/208V,(3)hot legs & (1)neutral.

          If you can find an inverter that puts out 240V,with high enough amp/kw rating to run a 240V motor,you won’t have a phasing issue.

          Yeah, usually the higher the KW rating the higher the price.

          I was checking out a couple of web sites and seems like this is what you’re looking for:

          http://www.world-import.com/transformers-type-D.htm

          • Craig Escaped Detroit

            I’ve got a 5kw (continuous sine wave output, with 10kw surge) inverter at 120vac, and I picked up a 2X buck/boost transformer rated at 5kva continuous (and my well pump motor is 240vac @ 1HP.)

            Yes, I understand homes never have access to 3 phase, and I only mentioned it because I know it’s out there for “industrial/commercial” applications. I’m only concerned with the details of running a 240vac motor on 120vac line that goes thru a 2x transformer and comes out as 240vac on EACH LEG? (I was thinking that home style 240vac was comprised of 120-vac DOWN on ONE leg as the other HOT leg is doing 120vac UP… combined “effect” is 240vac thru the wave-cycle.

            I was worried that putting 240vac (UP with ONE leg) while the 2nd leg is doing (240vac DOWN), would result in the motor “seeing” 480vac between the two legs combined?

            Does my question / concern make sense to you?
            I tried to “word it” as ‘technically accurate’ as possible from my very limited understanding.
            ————————–

            Since 1HP = less than 750 watts, the 5kva transformer being supplied by the 5kw inverter is not any problem.

            The transformer (also from China, as is most everything in this country), set me back about $100.

            My inverter is 48vdc input. (I can’t believe how many idiots think they can run big inverters on 12vdc. Hahaha). I ordered custom sized FAT cables for the battery bank & inverter feed…but if I would try to run the same stuff on 12v? I’d need cables as fat as a GOLF BALL, and more expensive than I care to think about. I’ve been looking into this a long time, and have just about everything needed to get this going.

            100A @ 48vdc = 4,800 watts (theoretical w/no loses), but to get the same 4,800 watts from 12vdc, people would need to draw 400A from the battery bank. That’s just stupid.

          • Craig Escaped Detroit

            My transformer is very similar to this one.

            I was just concerned that both legs at 240vac would add up to 480vac thru the 180 degrees of the wave-cycle. I was thinking that it’s supposed to be 120 on each leg adding up to a combined 240 thru the 180 degrees of the 360 degree full cycle.

            https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5000w-step-up-down-home-use-portable-type-transformer-110v-220v-exchanged/32515030128.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_116_10065_117_10068_114_115_113_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10078_10079_9915_426_10103_10073_10102_10096_10052_425_10050_10051-9915,searchweb201603_9&btsid=2da03b12-f659-4669-9a47-b0e2857088cd

            • glitter 1

              It can be confusing,but think of it this way(rule of thumb) the higher the voltage,the smaller the conductor required to handle the amerage.The lower the voltage,just the opposite.That’s why the typical 12V car battery has such large copper cables to carry the cranking amps (400+) needed to turn the starter.A 24V battery would require half the size cables to carry the same amps and so on.

              You have it figured out.
              …..
              Little off subject:

              Most utilities Primary voltages at the street,let’s say 7200v (to ground)12,500v (Phase to Phase),utilize 397mcm aluminum spacer cable or #2 acsr(alluminum conductor steel reinforced) and fuse them with a 100amp cutout fuse.The higher the voltage the smaller the conductor.Also, the higher the voltage the further the voltage can be pushed out from the source without line/voltage drop due to impedance/resistance.

              That’s why they keep upping the Primary Voltages feeding the street transformers so they can keep from increasing the size of the conductors.However,the higher the voltages go,the more dangerous it becomes to work with.That’s one of the reasons why a Lineman’s job is included in the top 10 most dangerous occupations.Once voltage exceeds 600vac,it causes flesh to burn/basically it cooks the flesh along it’s path of travel.I actually worked with a guy,who’s brother,took a shot of 19,900vac (Transmission Voltage) from his knees to his feet.He was lucky and lived,but he walked with leg braces and crutches.Transmission Voltage 19,900vac is the voltage that JCP&L used to feed their substations,which feed the Primary Voltages out to the street.They may use even higher now. Bad stuff!

              The voltage coming off of the Generator at OC was 13,500vac and was feed into (2) step-up transformers and was then sent to the steel tower transmission lines at 260,000vac up through Ocean and Monmouth Counties to the substations for distribution.

              • Craig Escaped Detroit

                Those of us who know a bit of the electrical information really wish that the USA would have switched to higher home voltage (such as the Euro 220vac).

                But the 50/60 Hz would have been better if it had been 120 Hertz or faster. (I’m thinking about the “flicker effect” of lighting, and how the slower Hz affects the lights that affect our bodies.)

                Even the TV displays, look crappy at 30 & 60Hz, and smooths out at 120 Hertz, etc.
                ————-

                Now the CAR MECHANICS need NEW training and special safety gloves, etc, to work with the ELECTRIC car batteries (DC voltages over 100 VCD, etc, gets very dangerous. As you know, a DC arc is very hard to “break connection” when conpared to A/C that is always stopping and reversing “flow” 60 times each second.

                Have you seen the 200-400 Amp / 160v – 250v DC breakers for solar systems? They’re similar in size to the old VHS video tapes. (installs between the battery bank and the inverter).
                ———

                My friend & neighbor was doing commercial electrical work, and got hit hard by some 288vac commercial lighting power in a ceiling, and fell to the floor, survived, and he told me that his doctor at the hospital, was amazed that the internal current had vaporized much of the clogged deposits that had been previously “mapped” in his aorta? etc arteries and likely added many more years to his life. He was very lucky and did not suffer any known permanent damage. He’s a great guy, and I’m glad to have him for my neighbor. (He’s the smartest guy I’ve met.)

                I’ve never been hit by anything more than a short poke of 120vac, or a cow fence. That was more than I care to experience.

                • Craig Escaped Detroit

                  @glitter1,

                  What I like about the European 220vac house voltage (and they don’t have to mess with DUAL voltage as we do.) We’ve got 120 & 240. They’ve got only 220.

                  Anyway, I HATE dealing with 12 gauge wire and twisting it around screw terminals, dealing with wire-nuts, snaking thru tight spots.

                  But in Europe, the are sending the same WATTAGE thru a 16 gauge wire in circuits that WE have to be using the much more stiff, 12 gauge conductors.
                  It’s SO much easier to wire an entire house with 16 ga wire, and CHEAPER too.

                  They think that 14 ga is some REALLY fat wire! Hahaha.

                • Ed_B

                  lol @Craig

                  “They think that 14 ga is some REALLY fat wire! Hahaha.”

                  Yep. They should see the two wires running to my electric furnace, each carrying 60 amps @ 240v… 28.8 KW, baby! 😀

                • Craig Escaped Detroit

                  My custom cut battery cables & end terminals, are 2/0 awg wire that is exactly 5/8″ thick, just a little bit shy of 3/4″ thick.

                  (God bless the Ebay sellers doing custom cable work. IT was some welding shop supply up in Michigan. Many sizes, any length, and your choice of colors and terminal styles, far cheaper than most any electrical suppliers around here.)

                  They can handle better than 200A (actually, I think they’re rated at about 400A)?

                  Some really awesome stuff.

                  Amazing what you can find on line. Such as my big (3-pole, 600vac / 250vdc) 100A fused safety disconnect switch, outdoor rated box. Retail new price is about $600-900 (various electrical retailers). Found a new/old stock (Ebay again), for just $130.

                  Your 60A / 240vac, sounds like some 6ga wire. Yep, I love that stuff, but it is also stiff and does not bend easy.

            • glitter 1

              CED,

              I watched “The Russian Woodpecker” and came away a little confused,mostly because it’s 99% in Russian.I’m not sure I get the full gist/inference of the story.Maybe that The Woodpecker backfired and had something to do with Chernobyl in some way?You can only surmize without understanding Russian.

              • Craig Escaped Detroit

                @Glitter1,
                Go looking again for the Russian Woodpecker with ENGLISH subtitles. That’s how I saw it.

                It turns out, that the “Woodpecker” was a big military surveillance antenna/radar (over the horizon), and was just “down wind” of the Chernobyl area.

                (the “Woodpecker” nick name, was because of the radio signal was thought to be a Russian Jamming signal- like a machine gun hammering noise over the air waves.) It was capable of watching all the USA space launches. The USA secret launches were NOT a secret to the “Duga” radar system…but it fell far short of what it was supposed to do.

                It turns out, the BILLIONS they spent on the radar antenna system, was NOT designed right, (or perhaps located geographically in the wrong place), that it was NOT going to work as it should), and the Official TESTING group of engineers was scheduled to come out and “verify/ certify” the correct functioning & results of the antenna network, but the local officials who had pushed it thru, and would have been executed for a bad project….. figured out a way to shut down the antenna without getting executed for a multi billion dollar failed system.

                They called the Chernobyl control administrators, and ordered specific actions that destroyed Chernobyl, and the fallout shut down the radar antenna project and the top level people were off the hook because the “testing & verification engineers who were scheduled to test & certify the radar system as working, could no longer come and do their jobs because of all the emergency evacuations and deadly fallout.

                The investigation of the radar system & Chernobyl coverup, was exposing some very powerful (still living) people, and the film maker had to leave the country because he was getting targeted for “silence”. (I think one of his close friends/helpers ended up dead.)

                The sub-titled version was as good or better than most any dangerous documentary I’ve ever seen.
                The information and connection the dots of who was involved, the phone calls make, etc etc, is very chilling.

                PS. The Russians have built an improved version of it, in a more appropriate geographical location.

                • glitter 1

                  First, I wouldn’t want higher than 120vac from my outlets because the higher voltages are more dangerous.It doesn’t take much to stop a heart:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKD7vuq-rY

                  and yes,it would be much much easier to wire a house with 16/2 than 14/2 & 12/2,which is why I always use the push-in connections on plugs/switches.I wired my house back in 1992 when I built it.My Father-In-Law,an electrical contractor,hated 12/2 & 12/3 also.

                  ……..

                  Just a quick comment on Chernobyl and the accident.Without knowing Russian,I can’t relate/tie the Woodpecker with any equipment failure which may have effected the disaster with the Reactor Explosion.What I do know is that some time after the accident there at Chernobyl, we/GPU Nuclear had a team of engineers visit/toured the site,including some of the damaged building.We even had video of that tour in our training department.My understanding about the accident/cause was their engineering group was attempting to perform a test,which was not approved/legit, on the Generator,where they would allow the generator speed run down in rpms,some how caused back pressure fed back from the generator to the reactor,which caused loss of control(over pressure),which created a loss of control of criticality in the reactor core,which resulted in the core exploding.

                  Note: The design(reactor) of Chernobyl is totally different of designs in Britain and US and Japan.Their design does not have the containment/shielding in their construction as the other safety designs,in other words: The Russians go/went cheap on safety,that’s why there was so much damage to the surrounding areas,it wasn’t contained like with US designs,which have the reactors contained within those big concrete domes or within a concrete drywell. Their cores are totally different also,much more dangerous.No NRC/OSHA over there.

                • Craig Escaped Detroit

                  Yes, the Chernobyl system was a different type, and no containment vessel, etc, and yes, they were doing a “test”, but it was the phone-call / orders from the Duga radar top dog that gave the secret order to perform some action during the test that deliberately resulted in the disaster.

                  The plant supervisor operator protested about what he was told to do, but he had to follow orders, and the “test” was deliberately botched to create the “accident” as well as to provide the “cover story” as to why it was an “accident” and not deliberate.

                  My ex girlfriend (Russian lady), knew of some people from her town who were “volunteered” to help with the disaster, and quickly died.
                  During one of my trips to Lithuania (a former Soviet republic), we were shopping at the flea market-farmer’s market, etc, and you can often find people selling old Soviet military stuff, etc, and I was able to buy 2 of the “awarded” Chernobyl Medals of Valor that was given to people or families of people who “served” at Chernobyl. Many of those medals were awarded posthumously.
                  The old people selling those family heirlooms, told me (thru my girlfriend-translator) the story of those particular medals.

                  Very few “Chernobyl medal owners” are alive today. Many died at the scene (it was very hushed up, but the family members knew when somebody didn’t come home.

                  Many more died years later of cancers.) From what I was told by some of those family members, the official number of Chernobyl casualties, is much larger than the official numbers.

                  Every time I look at it or hold it, I get choked up, just like holding a purple heart, except that many purple heart recipients are alive.

                  Here are some photos of the Chernobyl Service Medal. Shows a drop of red blood, with rays coming out of it, and they scientific symbols for Alpha, Beta & Gamma.

                  https://www.google.com/search?q=chernobyl+service+medal&num=40&client=ubuntu&hs=nEn&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_-8SOuuXQAhWBhiwKHfUZAXEQ_AUICCgB&biw=1065&bih=537

                • glitter 1

                  CED,

                  Remember Fedor’s Father in the Russian Woodpecker?Do you recall the medal he was wearing on his neck/throat area.I did a little research on it.It’s the Russian Metal: Order For “Merit To The Fatherland”.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_%22For_Merit_to_the_Fatherland%22

                  Not exact to the one shown in the film,but very close/little variation.It’s totally Masonic,just as the Russian”Coat Of Arms”,Masonic Double Headed Eagle(actually double headed phoenix).

                  If you review all of the various Russian Medals on this next page they all have significant association to Babylonian/Kabbalah Symbols:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders,_decorations,_and_medals_of_the_Russia

                  Now, if you compare the symbols to those illustrated on this next site,scroll down a ways until you come to the ancient symbols for Baal/Shamash/Ishtar:

                  http://www.whale.to/c/churches_ill.html

                  The St George Cross is actually the symbol of Baal.The cross of St Andrew,superimposed behind the St George Cross(The Eight Pointed Star) is the symbol for Ishtar and you will see how heavily it is used by the Catholic Church.You also see these medals worn on the Monarchs of Europe.It tells me/confirms that they are all Initiates.
                  Baal & Ishtar(the god & goddess),which is represented another way as the Crescent Moon(Ishtar) & Solar Blaze(Sun-God Shamash).

                  Very informative/telling.

      • Ed_B

        @Glitter

        “It’s tough getting old.”

        Amen to that, Bro. But… it really IS the only game in town. 😉

        • Eric

          Detox some of those 40 year old toxins out of your body Ed.

          DMSA Chelation and a magnetico sleep pad.

          You are what you eat.

          It’s the only game in town, but you can play it the way you want.

          • glitter 1

            Eric,

            My Brother,who just had a slight stroke back in March,was going to a guy/Naturalist who started him on injections at wound sites(electrically rebalancing) on his skin then injections for Chelation,because his blood tested for “off the charts” for lead mostly but some other high heavy metals.He has been a Master Plumber for 25 years,but now just supervises.The only problem with the treatments,they’re $1,600 a pop and not covered by insurance,so how long can somebody keep that up,unless of course you are independently wealthy and he isn’t. I personally believe in the treatment,but unfortunately the FDA and AMA do not.

            There is an old cemetery just on the edge of town dating back to the mid 18oo’s,named Brewer’s Cemetery. There are about 50-60 graves with headstones,Men/Women/Children.Most of the dates/ages range from about 25-50yrs,with a number lower,there are a few 60-70yrs for the males.The females range a little higher from about 30-60,with a number lower.The children range from like 2 weeks to mid teens.I wonder how many of these would have lived to today’s life expectancies with the medical advantages of today,probably a fairly large number of them.

            Life expectancy for a Male 125-100 years ago was maybe 45-50 and today is about 76,one fact remains the Laws of Thermal Ddynamics can be slowed,but not stopped.
            My legs/hips remind me of it every day,I’m 63,my dad made it to 78,so he made the average and a little more.My Mom made it to 86,her Mom to 90.

            Kinda like a good/expensive set of 80K Michelin]s and/or BF Goodrich’s,they look/ wear like iron until the threads/cords start showing,then you know you’re on borrowed time.

            • Craig Escaped Detroit

              OK you guys. There is a LOT of information out there about “chelation”.

              The long approved method for LEAD removal, has been Ca-EDTA (calcium EDTA), it also removes some mercury, etc.

              I know that “oral chelation” is only about 5-10% as effective as I.V., but orally can be done over a long period of time, and done CHEAPLY.

              I’ve read how CILANTRO does an excellent job of dislodging and removing MERCURY from the body.

              There is a solvent (liniment) approved for horses, etc (but the AMA does NOT appreciate this stuff, so they fought it), called DMSO.

              It practically FLIES into the blood stream thru the SKIN !!! Anything mixed with it, goes directly into the body. It’s like a skin cream version of a needle.

              I’m thinking, a person (medical person) could research how much Ca-EDTA to mix with DMSO, and do their own HOME style of I.V. chelation without any needles.

              EDTA comes in different formulas. The NON calcium type, was found to chelate (remove) SO much calcium so fast from the body, that some people got instant heart attacks and died from calcium depletion. SO they found that the Calcium enhanced version of EDTA was safe and did not cause heart attacks.

              Finding a source of medical grade Ca-EDTA is expensive, but I bought a 1Kg bag of “non-certified” Ca-EDTA for about $50 from some overseas supplier.

              DMSO can be bought, on line, or from the stores (such as Tractor Supply and other farm supply stores, horse care, etc) (DMSO= Di Methyl Sulf Oxide)

              Regular EDTA (without the calcium) of commonly used as a BATTERY additive for car, golf cart and other batteries, to try to help “rejuvenate” them when they don’t want to hold a charge.

              Ca-EDTA is also found in some Mayonnaise additives, sometimes used on farm land, etc etc. I’m not sure if they always use the Calcium version, or some other version, or sometimes the plain version on the farm soils. They rarely use it because it’s expensive, but I have read about this way of using it.

              There are OTHER chelating “agents” out there too. MANY of them. (such as Prussian Blue for removing Cesium 137 from the body).

              I happen to have one book on my shelf about Chelation Therapy and another book about toxic mercury dental fillings.

            • Eric

              glitter, we’re all on borrowed time.

              Sounds like he was exposed to some nasty stuff. I see a lot of my buddies who inhaled all sorts of stuff and still do. They are around 58 but look more like 68. You gotta take care of your vessel otherwise you are sure to sink.

              I was listening to Dr. Dean Bonlie last night on Rense. There might be a youtube video that pops up. He was talking about a lot of useful stuff like DSMA chelation and those MagneticoSleep pads sound like they can help remove a lot of harmful stuff. A bit pricey but lots of good info on his site.

              http://magneticosleep.com/

              I try to avoid as much as I can but I know I live in a high radium level area and watch these people fall apart rapidly mostly because they don’t know and they don’t care. They want ZERO responsibility for anything. Especially their health.

              I don’t do as much as I used to but take one of these once in a while…

              https://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/zeoforce-zeolite-caps-180.html?afd_number=27141&gclid=CMfG57qz5dACFZCcfgodknkDYw

              I’m gonna start going back into the doctor soon. I’m way overdue. There’s a load of different ways to get the nastys out of the body and the good stuff in and regenerate cells. Most of it is just knowledge, information, common sense, and lifestyle habits. Sometimes it’s just drinking a lot more pure water and eating less overcooked “cuisine” and more raw fruits and vegetables and less gmo junk. Hope your brother gets better.

              • glitter 1

                I agree,yes life style changes/additions do work.Most of the toxic effects/contacts with bad stuff has just recently been identified,last 20 years.Like asbestos,benzene,mercury,lead.
                Just before I retired there was a big push/change on welding techniques/procedures.In order to weld on an item now,You have to incorporate positive controls utilizing a 500cfm heps filter blower to pull the volatile off gassing/fumes from the welding arch.In times past you could just let rip,not now,because those volatile fumes,which contain various metals get taken up into the lungs.Same with Plumbing,everything use to be cast iron waste lines,which require lead joints,so you had lead exposure from the molten lead pot for the joints and the constant handling of the lead.Just think how many times guys would be totally saturated with the lead fumes and from direct handling of the material then they eat a quick lunch/sandwich without washing their hands.
                Industrial safety has come a long way in recent years.That’s why companies offshore their manufacturing,none of those pesky rules/laws,which add to cost.There’s no OSHA or Right-To-Know laws in China or eles where in the third world.

                I’ve already checked out a site on DMSA:

                http://www.dmsachelation.com/

                • Eric

                  okay then…

                • glitter 1

                  Eric,

                  BTW,NLCV along with “It’ A Wonderful Life” are traditions in our house.We just watched it last night,NLCV is coming up next week.Love both.

                • Eric

                  Always liked this one too.

                • glitter 1

                  CED,

                  “I imagine that one of the biggest consumers of zeolites, to be the nuclear industries. I’d bet they order it by rail car.”

                  Not really,the main product used by Nuclear Plants/Industry is DE and Cation/Anion bead resin.DE for filtration and Resin for ion exchange beds to filter/soften water.
                  Spent DE and Resin accounts for 95% of low level waste generated by all US NP.All low level rad waste goes to the Barnwell burial site located in Columbia South Carolina.Before shipping in large shielded containers,the Filter sludge and spent resin are solidified in a large HIC(high integrity container) Liner then placed into the lead lined shipping cask.Then it’s off to Barnwell.

                  http://www.energysolutions.com/waste-management/facilities/barnwell-facility-details/

              • glitter 1

                Eric,

                We used Silver Zeolite infused filter canisters on our air sampling pumps to test/sample for Iodine-131,which would be present if there was a fission barrier breach with fuel during an accident.They were expensive so we used them sparingly during drills.

                • Craig Escaped Detroit

                  @glitter1,
                  Thanks for getting me started at looking at all the various medals, badges, etc from Russia (which led me to glimpse at the SOVIET era decorations). It quickly becomes obvious that the only decoration they did not specifically “award”, was a medal for “Breathing Air”. Everybody gets a medal for something.

                  Zeolite. Very useful stuff. Also goes GOOD in the garden soil (my main garden plot is about 40 x 40, with a critter fence around it, and I also installed a 12″ deep “mole barrier” mesh underground under the main fence, AND, 12″ of the MAIN critter fence, is laid FLAT on the ground as an “apron” to prevent rabbits, dogs, etc from digging down to get under the bottom of the fence).

                  ANYWAY, I tossed about 320 pounds of granular zeolite on the garden (as well as about 50 pounds of agricultural grade D.E. to mix in with all the mushroom compost, clay & topsoil etc into the garden plot, so that it would be halfway decent improvement to this BEACH SAND that makes up most of this area’s soil.)

                  I’ve still got about 160 pounds of granular zeolite stored in the shed. I’ll put that onto a 2nd garden plot. It’s from a swimming pool supplier, it’s a vast improvement for those “sand filters”.
                  In aquariums, it’s prized for the ability to capture ammonia, etc.

                  After it has been used in swimming pools or aquariums, it’s even BETTER for the garden because it’s loaded with ammonia (nitrogen)! Slowly releases it, but still maintains its good properties for many things.
                  If I wanted to “consume” some of it, I’d grind it with a mortar & pestle to a fine powder, or at least a semi-fine powder, etc. A prudent person might also heat it to sterilize any organic growths lurking in there.

                  I imagine that one of the biggest consumers of zeolites, to be the nuclear industries. I’d bet they order it by rail car.

                • Craig Escaped Detroit

                  @glitter1,
                  several years back, I read something about the zeolites in nuclear & as a solar heat-storage medium (it acts like a “re-usable” kind of “granular-dry DRANO drain clear… you know, when you add water it gets super hot.)

                  Zeolite, when you heat it to drive off the water molecules, is “saving heat”, and when you put water back into it, it gets hot. Can be re-used infinite times. The capacity is up to 4X more BTU’s than water.

                  Anyway, a quick search revealed that zeolites are sometimes used in box-car loads (or perhaps by the ship-load), in the nuclear industry (Chernobyl emergency response used more than 500,000 tons of zeolite at the site.

                  Fukushima has been using thousands of tons, also dumping or bags, of it into the ocean into the contamination, absorbing Cesium etc.

                  It’s a very useful material, both natural & synthetic versions.
                  I like the idea of solar heat storage, you can “evaporate” it in summer, and then wet it in the winter to get all that summer heat back.

                  http://www.ida-ore.com/nuclear-power/

          • Ed_B

            “You are what you eat.”

            So avoid fruit and nuts? lol

    • Ed_B

      “I can drink espresso & take a nice nap.”

      Sounds like a thyroid issue. Have you had that checked? If not, it might be worth having that done to see if you need a supplement. I take one and it made a LOT of difference in my desire for activity. 🙂

      • Craig Escaped Detroit

        @Ed,
        I’ll have it checked (again). In the past decades, I’ve had them add that test to my blood work, etc, and it has not been out of bounds, but I have never ever been the energetic human.

        A strong shot of coffee (caffeine) from various sources, can give me a short boost, and I enjoy feeling normal for a couple hours, but I can also take that nap even during the “coffee time”.

        Both parents lived pretty well, each of them made it to 81. Neither one had any cancer, (a bit strange, since cancer runs all over my family, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents, etc, BUT… since the 1970’s, both my parents, me, etc, have been eating the 3-4 raw almonds every day as recommended by “Edgar Cayce” (he said it would prevent all cancers on a daily basis, one day at a time). Look him up, there’s a lot of interesting stuff about him (died in 1945).

        So I keep a few pounds in the freezer, and make sure I never run out. I used to keep some in my work locker & car just in case I forgot to eat them at home.

        Cayce also says that if you massage (cold pressed) peanut oil into all your joints once each week, you’ll never develop arthritis for as long as you live. (I’m turning 63 very soon, doing the weekly peanut oil, and I have never experienced any bad joints, no aches or pains. No stiffness, day or nite.) The only joint pain I’ve ever had was a work stress injury to a shoulder. Therapy fixed it long ago. Good neck, arms, knees, toes, fingers, etc.

        Cayce is THE ONE who gave the psychic predictions for “Earth Changes” (among many other things).
        He’s like the Christian version of a super Nostradamus. Healing, information about lost history, future history, Atlantis, Bible, science, the life and insights into the years of Jesus, etc.

        Anyway, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all, and to all a GOOD night. (Trump Trump Trump).
        And may the Meteor of Truth fall on top of the COMET Ping Pong Pedo rings.

        • Ed_B

          Edgar Cayce was a pretty amazing man. He got me interested in astral projection many years ago. I never got control of it, although it did happen twice. Both were amazing experiences.

          Almonds? Check. Although I do prefer both cashews and pecans as nut snacks. Yeah, I know… no laetrile in either of those. 😉

          Peanut oil for the joints? Never tried it but will. Have some right shoulder pain that could benefit from this, so it’s well worth a try. Thanks much for mentioning this. 🙂

          • Craig Escaped Detroit

            @Ed-B, ALMONDS…under recent FDA regs, they require ALL USA almonds to be “Pasteurized” before sale, (only direct grower to customer sales are exempt), either by heating or some chemical process.

            Not sure, but I would think it may destroy the Laetrile component. The safety regs, are just withing the last 10 years or so. Have you noticed all the almonds are much drier and less flavor than those in the past? AND, those SAME regs ALLOW those “Pasteurized Almonds” to be LABELED as RAW, etc.

            There are sellers (both domestic growers) and overseas sellers, that sell the NON Pasteurized Almonds (if it says “Sproutable” then you know they have not been “killed”.

            The FDA did this, under the pretense of “somebody got salmonella or E-coli, and they think it was the nuts, so this had to be done to “protect” us. I don’t believe it.

            But they also require the Pasteurization process for KITCHEN spices too. (But I think a lot of importers may not be following it. In any case, you USED to be able to buy whole seed spices and GROW them in the garden.

            I wonder if PICKLING SPICES may be exempt from the “killing process”?

            OK, UNPasteurized Almonds, typically cost more than $12 or $14 per pound. Ouch. (About double the price of USA-retail almonds.)
            Amazon, Ebay, Nuts.com, and many places sell the TRULY RAW almonds.

            I got myself a GALLON of “cold pressed” peanut oil (that’s the one recommended in the Cayce readings), from an Amazon seller for about $50. To keep it fresh, I keep it refrigerated or frozen.

            I’d suggest trying to GROW both the whole seed kitchen spices AND pickling spices.
            PS. The best price I found for BULK box of pickling spices (20 pounds?) was at Nuts.com

            About the best deal I found on 10 pounds of Chia seeds, was the Walmart website.

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