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Do We Really Want A War With Russia?

by Chris Martenson, Peak Prosperity:


I wish I could say things were improving between the US and Russia but they aren’t. They’re rapidly worsening.

There’s so much happening right now, I can only provide a summary of a few of the more interesting and worrying developments.

This report builds on those I’ve released over the past two years and begins with a chilling editorial put out by the NY Times on September 29th, 2016, which further demonized Putin specifically, Russia generally, and openly advocates for military confrontation.

Hey, we’ve been down this path before. The deeply conflicted NY Times has never met a war in the Middle East it didn’t support, and has never had any trouble repeating war plan talking points (that always neatly align with those put out by neocon think tanks) or even printing obviously fake “intelligence” from unnamed sources such as that used to justify the illegal US attack and invasion of Iraq.

As a reminder for my US readers who many only have read US press sources on the matter, prior to being attacked Iraq had never threatened the US, had no role in 9/11, and had allowed extensive UN access to its country’s military bases none of which ever showed the slightest trace of manufacturing weapons of mass destruction. And, even if they had been producing these so-called weapons of mass destruction (weapons which are also owned and maintained in the US, for the record), there was still no legal case for an attack by the US because pre-emptive attacks are not justifiable, ever.

What the NY Times has done, again, I fear, is served as a conduit for neocon talking points and therefore has become a propaganda arm readying the US population for another war, this one with Russia. This is a very disturbing development.

Here’s the editorial, into which I have inserted comments where appropriate [in brackets]. Remember, propaganda is designed to elicit core emotional responses such as fear, anger, moral indignation, and a sense of threat to one’s very survival:

Vladimir Putin’s Outlaw State

Sept 29, 2016

President Vladimir Putin is fast turning Russia into an outlaw nation. As one of five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, his country shares a special responsibility to uphold international law. Yet, his behavior in Ukraine and Syria violates not only the rules intended to promote peace instead of conflict, but also common human decency.

[Which “rules intended to promote peace” is the NY Times referring to here? The same sorts of rules that led NATO to bomb Libya back into the stone age? Or are these the “rules” that allow a country to manufacture fake evidence on Iraq and then attack that country unleashing a decade of bitter sectarian violence? Also, how does “common human decency fit into that schema? I’m truly curious.]

This bitter truth was driven home twice on Wednesday. An investigative team led by the Netherlands concluded that the surface-to-air missile system that shot down a Malaysia Airlines plane over Ukraine in July 2014, killing 298 on board, was sent from Russia to Russian-backed separatists and returned to Russia the same night.

[The MH-17 disaster is anything but clear-cut and the JIT investigation was heavily compromised from the start. Nothing like the claim being made here is supported by the actual investigation evidence presented. This is pure, unsupported speculation at this stage. More on this at a later date.]

Meanwhile, in Syria, Russian and Syrian warplanes knocked out two hospitals in the rebel-held sector of Aleppo as part of an assault that threatens the lives of 250,000 more people in a war that has already claimed some 500,000 Syrian lives.

[Meanwhile, in Afghanistan the US bombed a MSF hospital and has killed ~90% innocents with its drone program. Also, not to pick nits, but the US and European interests funded and started the war in Syria. It seems a bit short-sighted to now claim that Russia bears some special responsibility for the lives at stake. You have to forget everything that happened prior to this moment.]

Russia has tried hard to pin the blame for the airline crash on Ukraine. But the new report, produced by prosecutors from the Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, Malaysia and Ukraine, confirms earlier findings. It uses strict standards of evidence and meticulously documents not only the deployment of the Russian missile system that caused the disaster but also Moscow’s continuing cover-up.

[Nope. Just nope. I’ll detail why in a future report, but the MH-17 investigation was bogus from the get go. Short version: there were only two suspects, the Ukrainian military and rebels. The Ukrainian secret service (SBU) was inside the investigation from the beginning and supplied all of the ‘evidence’ against Russia and the rebels. What investigation ever has one of the prime suspects supplying the evidence? As I said, completely rigged and bogus.]

Some Western officials have accused Russia of war crimes, charges that could be pursued through international channels, even if Moscow blocks a formal referral to the International Criminal Court. New sanctions against Russia also should be considered. Mr. Putin will undoubtedly fight any such action, using his veto on the Security Council, but whatever his response, the United States should lend its support to Ukraine’s quest for accountability.

[“Some western officials?” There the NYT goes again with the unnamed sources. How about you name names this time NY Times? Well, in truth, a whole host of named individuals and organizations have accused the US of war crimes, as well as Israel, which the US has routinely blocked. Glass houses and all of that.]

Over recent days, Mr. Putin has again shown his true colors with air attacks that have included powerful bunker-busting bombs that can destroy underground hospitals and safety zones where civilians seek shelter.

[Note the slippery use of the word ‘can’ in this sentence. Have they been used to target and destroy hospitals and civilian safety zones, or not?]

On Sept. 19, Russia bombed an aid convoy, which like hospitals and civilians are not supposed to be targeted under international law.

[Russia denies this, and has also released radar evidence showing that the only planes in the region at the time were two US drones, plus the sort of damage seen on the fire-destroyed trucks is consistent with the damage caused by the US drone based Hellfire missile. If the US wants to release some radar data showing Russian planes in the area or other compelling evidence, then we can all be more confident in that claim. For now the NY Times is repeating an unproven assertion made by the US State Department.]

President Obama has long refused to approve direct military intervention in Syria. And Mr. Putin may be assuming that Mr. Obama is unlikely to confront Russia in his final months and with an American election season in full swing. But with the rebel stronghold in Aleppo under threat of falling to the government, administration officials said that such a response is again under consideration.

[The “rebel stronghold in Aleppo under threat” is interesting use of evocative language. However the nature of war is that the sides attempt to take key positions form each other. The “rebels’ in question are some of the most dodgy humans to ever walk the planet. The rebels backed by the US include nasty elements of Al-Nusra, Al-Qaida, ISIS and a host of really vile outfits. If you are not aware, these groups have executed thousands of civilians, taken sex slaves, and conducted other horrible crimes against the innocent. ]

Mr. Putin fancies himself a man on a mission to restore Russia to greatness. Russia could indeed be a great force for good. Yet his unconscionable behavior — butchering civilians in Syria and Ukraine, annexing Crimea, computer-hacking American government agencies, crushing dissent at home — suggests that the furthest thing from his mind is becoming a constructive partner in the search for peace.

[Pay close attention to that word “unconscionable.” It really stood out for me here and I knew something was up when I heard it used again by a US official. It will soon appear again in media quotes below. For now, let’s just note that every act declared as ‘unconscionable’ has also recently been done by the US: civilians have been ‘butchered’ (again a strongly evocative word very different from the ‘collateral damage and targeting mistakes’ that the US reserves for its own actions), computers have been hacked (even Angela Merkel’s cell phone as you may recall), and peaceful protests have been crushed in the US, most recently a peaceful prayer circle of Native Americans at Standing Rock by heavily armed LEO’s who brought armored personnel carriers for the task)]

(Source)

Okay, that editorial was yet another in a long line from the NY Times which has never met a neocon-proposed war it didn’t blindly support. Supposedly the bastion of the east coast liberal elites, the NY Times is actually acting once again more like the personal propaganda arm of the US necons and Israeli likuds who have been dragging the US into one war after another.

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15 comments to Do We Really Want A War With Russia?

  • Ed_B

    “Do We Really Want A War With Russia?”

    Oh, hell, no. It’s not Americans and Russians who don’t get along: it’s the a-holes who run our governments who can’t get along. Maybe they should duke it out in the ring to see which side gets their way? Can you just see Obama trying to duke it out with Putin? Now that would be a pay per view that was worth the money! lol

    I can just see it now… “Vladdie, no, (WHAP!), please, stop (THUMP!), let’s talk (KICK!), Aiiieeeeeee”! lol

    • KRELL427

      Ed I think it would go more like this, Obama and Hillary would fall for the boat trick. https://youtu.be/xNToJwKE4F0

      • Eric

        US elections to be cancelled and war crimes tribunals to be held Pentagon and CIA sources say.

        http://src-fla.us/index.php/toolkit/78-news-articles/110-ben-fulford

        • Fraser

          Ben Full (of it). Last week he claimed Killary was dead.

          • Eric

            yeah. I’m sure everything will go smoothly and Trump will just glide into the oval office. 😉

            • Fraser

              Don’t believe that either. But now, name me one “my CIA sources say” thing that he has called correctly, ever. I mean, what self-important ego! And how can he promote and justify this claim:

              “If this writer is killed, you can be sure the entire 13 ruling bloodlines will be wiped out going back 5 generations to the founding of the Federal Reserve Board.”

              This guy defines what it means to be psychotic!

              • Eric

                While the headline of the article did say “Hillary is dead,” the text merely reported on the ABC news report that said so and was scrubbed from the internet.

                I don’t see any reason to call him a psychotic. He reports what his sources tells him.

                Just take it with a grain of salt. No need to get emotional over it and shoot the messenger.

            • Fraser

              My guess is they will try to rig the election and if that fails, they will find a way (legally or otherwise) to hand leadership to the VP (Mike Pence) who looks like an establishment stooge. If I were Trump, I would have chosen Bernie Sanders to split the democrat vote (or Tulsi Gabbard to stun everyone with her beauty and intelligence).

              • Eric

                Well I’ll have to disagree with you. I agree about Pence. But I think Ben Carson or another more loyal conservative or libertarian who is not a player would have been a better selection and better insurance than any democrat on a Republican ticket.

                But as far as the election goes, if I had to bet real money on it…there won’t be one. Too many people have their hopes up. That’s a good enough reason for me to think they will be squashed like a bug.

                • KRELL427

                  Its still good fun watching the witch get bitch slapped, the only thing better would be to see her go into a seizure and fall on the floor fish flopping until they cut the camera. She and Bill have earned the way they should be treated.

    • Fraser

      As the saying goes – there are 3 levels of stupidity:
      (1) The stupid
      (2) The really stupid
      (3) Those who want to invade Russia

  • anon

    I’d like to see ol’ Putin in the ring with both Obama AND Hitlary, mano-a-mano, in a DEATH MATCH! I would definitely PAY $$ to see THAT!

  • Fraser

    Problem is, after Hussein & Gaddafi every leader in the ME is afraid, both of the US and their own population (who justifiably hate the US). Russia and China on the other hand are offering aid instead of bombs. To prevent the inebitable march of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Egypt and others into the arms of Russia, the US is threatening more war. And if the US don’t start nuking everyone, the march will become a stampede. Stupid, stupid neo-cons! Who could have imagined that countries might prefer peace and help over regime change and war?

  • MarcS

    I do not believe there has been any research done on the owners of stock ownership of the military industrial complex (arms dealers), what specific banks make loans and has ownership rights in these companies.

    Let us see who invests and profits from war, and the war enablers (banksters with their printed plantation money – what a scam on mankind).

    I want their names!lol

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