by PJ Bloggs, SGTReport.com:
UPDATE: James Perloff has submitted a thoughtful and detailed response to the article written by PJ Bloggs. Here are James’ thoughts on the piece which he calls “marvelous”, and then read on for the original article which is attached. ~ SGT
Hi, Sean. I’d like you to decide how you want to post this in relation to Blogg’s article. Here we go:
Regarding P J Bloggs’ intelligent post of yesterday, there are too many diverse topics within it to respond to, so I’ll confine myself to this one important comment: “The fossil record shows a progression of life forms from bacteria to worms to lizards, dinosaurs, sabre tooth tigers, multiple apes and humans etc. And I hope he doesn’t think over 6 million land based plant and animal species (let alone many times more subspecies variants) spent several months in a boat with a small extended family that incestuously multiplied rapidly from just around the time the pyramids were built.”
First, according to the Bible, the people on the Ark were Noah, his wife, their three sons and the sons’ three wives. So the relationships were not incestuous, unless one applies that term to first-cousin marriages that would have initially ensued. Also, if you started with 8 people in 2350 BC (just to take Ussher’s date as a starting point), you would get today’s world population from an annual growth rate of only 0.5 percent, which is well below today’s population growth rate of 1.1%. (I am speaking hypothetically, of course, since eight people cannot grow by exactly 0.5 %).
Also, you wouldn’t have needed “over 6 million land based plant and animal species“ on the ark. Plants were not taken on the ark; the Bible never references them, but floating foliage and seeds would probably have taken care of their survival. For the animals you only needed the basic progenitors of the various types; and bear in mind that based on the dimensions given in the Bible, the ark’s carrying capacity was equal to more than 500 modern boxcars.
In my atheist youth, I regarded the Biblical Flood as nothing more than a fairy tale for naïve Sunday School children. In reality, there is much scientific evidence supporting it.
About 75 percent of the rock in the Earth’s geologic column is sedimentary (deposited chiefly by water, like limestone or sandstone). Since the days of Charles Darwin’s close friend Charles Lyell (1797-1875), evolutionary geologists have argued that the geologic layers simply resulted from natural processes visible today – gradual erosion and sedimentation, from oceans covering Earth. This explanation supplied Darwin with the endless millions of years his theory of evolution required in order to work.
However, this claim is belied by the very thing Bloggs refers to: the countless billions of fossils found throughout the geologic layers. Most fossils are remains mineralized by sediments. It’s not just bones we find, but soft body parts such as fishes’ fins and scales, jellyfish, and tree leaves. We even have fossils of animals in the act of giving birth and eating each other. These cannot have been generated by slow sedimentation. When an animal dies, it normally either (1) decomposes, or (2) is devoured by predators, before it can be buried under sediment. That is why so few fossils have been created in recent years. For example, millions of buffaloes were killed in the 19th century, but they left no fossils – scavengers and decomposing bacteria took care of that. Fossilization requires quick burial.
The epic worldwide flood described in the Bible, by churning up billions of tons of sediment, would have resulted in rapid burial of Earth’s living organisms, and explains why innumerable well-preserved fossils are found throughout the world. It also explains why most of the geologic column’s rock is sedimentary. The Flood also explains why marine fossils are found in mountains—even near the top of Mount Everest. Further reinforcing the Flood are the flood legends of more than 200 cultures.
But doesn’t science prove the Earth is 4.6 billion years old, as Bloggs says? Actually, it depends on the methodologies you use. Darwinists like radiometric dating because it can give you an old Earth. But even that, besides yielding many contradictory results, depends on various assumptions, such as the assumption that radioactive decay has always been the same throughout all time, and was never accelerated in the past by cosmic events.
But there are other, equally valid dating methods that give you a much younger Earth. To take just one example, by comparing the number of meteorites in the earth to the rate at which they fall, we should be able to roughly estimate our planet’s age. Meteorites’ scarcity suggests that Earth is only a few thousand years old. They are found only in very recent (uppermost) terrain. If the geologic layers slowly formed over billions of years, as evolutionists say, they should be filled with meteorites.
Bloggs refers to a sequence of fossils, which he sees as proof of evolution. He’s right—there is a general sequence. One generally does find invertebrates at the lowest geologic levels, fish above them, then amphibians, reptiles, mammals, and finally man. This seems to support evolution. However, we still lack the transitional forms between these major groups. There should be billions of transitionals, and they aren’t there.
Once again, the Flood provides the explanation. Suppose there was a great Flood today: the continents overrun with water, land savagely eroded, massive sediments poured into the sea. What creatures would be buried lowest? Those that dwell at the lowest levels: clams and other invertebrates on the ocean floor.
In our imaginary scenario, who would get buried next? Well, who lives over the marine invertebrates? Fish. Their ability to swim above the sediments would exceed that of invertebrates.
As the oceans and lakes overflowed, and water rose on the continents, the next creatures buried would probably be those living at water’s edge: amphibians. Then would come terrestrial animals. The ones with the least mobility for escape? Reptiles. Above them, one would find mammals; and at the greatest height, the most resourceful being of all: man.
Now, the fossils of these creatures would not always be in precise order, but this would probably be the trend. And that is exactly what we see in the geologic column. Darwinists see it as evolution’s history revealed; I see it as the sequence of ecological zones impacted by the Biblical Flood.
So I wouldn’t necessarily agree with P J that “ancient texts carry spiritual but not scientific truths,” but nonetheless he’s written a marvelous piece.
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friends, SGT here. after listening to my God is Real interview with author James Perloff, PJ Bloggs wrote to me to offer his thoughts on the God and evolution question. Though I do firmly believe that James and I covered the hardcore truth in our interview, I also do not possess the hubris needed to claim that I hold all of the answers to these complex questions, so despite there being a bit of “UFO woo” in this piece (which is a subject we continue to follow at The Phaser), I asked PJ if I could share his comments, and he obliged.
“PJ Bloggs” is an Australian MD writing under a pen-name after researching UFOs in light of his previous readings on near death experiences (NDE’s), consciousness and spirituality – all of which are subjects we have covered at SGT report, here’s just one example: Free Energy & the End Of Global Poverty? Evidence Suppressed Technology Could Save The Planet
So without further adieu, Here are PJ’s thoughts on my interview with author James Perloff.
I just listened to your interview with James Perloff. If you recall the section of my “eBook” on UFOs where I segue into near-death experiences, I too became an atheist for a period of time at medical school under the mountain of evidence and theory in the life sciences based on Darwinian theory.
For me it was reading Raymond Moody’s book on NDEs “Life After Life” [watch the documentary here] plus my deep adherence to philosophy and a positive experience I had had of Christianity and prayer plus Reason from both my mother and several teachers at my Jesuit school (yes I know about the conspiracy theory re Jesuits – however I would say there’s no way in all God’s Creation that those excellent Jesuit school teachers were in any way part of some high level Vatican Satanic conspiracy) – that had me resist a full permanent adherence to atheistic materialism.
Perloff is knowledgeable and a good thinker. He lands 4 good punches on Darwinian evolution
theory. But I’m concerned he could be throwing a baby out with the bath water – though I don’t know, because the interview was not long enough to cover the issues in depth and also I haven’t had time to look at his books or website. But I would’ve liked to hear some up front acknowledgement that we live in a Universe of immense age – at least 14Billion years and on a planet of 4.6 Billion years by best calculation, with stars and galaxies millions of light years away etc. And that the fossil record shows a progression of life forms from bacteria to worms to lizards, dinosaurs, sabre tooth tigers, multiple apes and humans etc. And I hope he doesn’t think over 6 million land based plant and animal species (let alone many times more subspecies variants) spent several months in a boat with a small extended family that incestuosly multiplied rapidly from just around the time the pyramids were built.
Agreed that there has to be more than blind chance to this. Intelligent design makes more sense. But that doesn’t mean the biosphere and myriad ecosystems haven’t been changing and evolving in adaptive integrated beautiful ways over time.
One person you should look into Sean and consider referencing on your site, is Rupert Sheldrake. Sheldrake is in my view one of the greatest minds in science. He is also a professing Christian. His concept of morphogenetic fields makes a lot of sense in reforming and reintroducing life and soul and God into Darwin’s atheistic mechanistic theory. See Sheldrake’s banned TED talk and his excellent book called “Science Set Free” – which was titled “The Science Delusion” to set it against Dawkin’s book “The God Delusion” in the UK market. It was also the title of his TED talk that an anonymous TED scientific panel had banned.
To me Sheldrake is a hero who follows the data and uses reason without kowtowing to dogmas. What frustrates me with a lot of others, and I’m not sure if Perloff is completely free of this, is this human tendency to flip flop from dogmatic atheism on one side to religious fundamentalism on the other side. Genesis is not a scientific text – rather it is a primitive creation narrative text similar to but generally much better (perhaps because it’s divinely inspired) than the myriad other creation mythologies of various cultures like our Australian Aboriginal creation dreamtime stories (though they may have some level of divine inspiration too). A strong theological as well as scientific (in terms of quantum physics) case can be made that our individual and collective human consciousness is contiguous with Divine Consciousness. There is no separation from God, only an illusion of it created out of ego limitations in this physical realm (and – according to NDE testimony and some Biblical scholars like William Barkley – temporary hellish realms) and exacerbated by narcissistic free will choices.
The authors of sacred texts are constrained by culture, personality, experience and the dominat paradigms of their times. God has a hard time getting through! Perhaps that is why many Christians see the “Word of God” as Jesus Himself (as per The Gospel of John) rather than the books of the Bible per se. Jesus’ words in scripture to me stand tall above the many contradictions and some abhorrent passages in other biblical passages.
Returning to the issue of evolution, though. I work in a large hospital. Although microbiology is not my field I know we combat very real Darwinian forces in microbial genetic adaptation to antibiotics.
Darwin was a genius, but of course far from infallible. His second major book – on the study of emotion and behaviour in humans and animals – correctly identified the Vagus nerve as the main regulator of emotion – a fact that is only now being fully recognised and utilised therapeutically. As an Anglican minister Darwin was tortured by his slide into atheism from his discoveries and research. A victim of his own theory.
The tragedy is Darwin could’ve found hope if he’d been more into philosophy, particularly Plato. Materialistic atheism has a longer history, going back to Democritus and the Atomists who in Ancient Greece put forward the theory there existed “only atoms and the void”. The Platonists and most other schools of Greek philosophy believed in the soul (psyche) and to varying degrees in the gods/divine beings and the afterlife place Hades. The Platonists “won” the debate with the Atomists by sarcastically simply pointing out “so where are YOU Democritus? Oh in Democritus’ case we can in fact see there is a void!” Laughter all round the Acropolis. It is self-evident to ancient Greeks at least that we have conscious minds and inert unalive atoms can’t be conscious, neither can a void. So there must be a soul, a psyche, in addition to atoms and space in between. Humour can cut to the heart of the issue!
The battle against materialistic atheism is hugely important. I see suicidal depressed young people in my work, where existential meaningless is a major factor. But it won’t be won by (at least solely) tackling Darwinian evolution with appeal to ancient texts that carry spiritual but not scientific truths. The key is to focus on consciousness. That conscious awareness and intentionality (the I AM THAT I AM plus free will) – which is the real image of God within all of us – including many higher animals.
I mention this to suicidal young people where atheistic nihilism is part of their problem. I also sometimes suggest they look at the growing NDE literature. As I mentioned in my “eBook” – after reading and listening to literally several thousands of NDE testimonies – it becomes overwhelmingly obvious that we are eternal souls in a marvellous created multiverse that is infinite in scope. A picture of existence, a map of heavenly and hellish realms emerges from this growing body of evidence. It is a vision that Neo-Darwinian bioscience cannot compete with. However Quantum Physics is harmonious with it. Biblical literalism cannot contain this vision of reality either – as the premises of fundamentalism are too narrow – a small geocentric universe of short time duration (which no doubt seemed big to the ancient Hebrews).
As I showed in my eBook on UFOs – the wonder and enormity of Creation (that encompasses evolutionary principles more in a Design fashion based on conscious intentionality than a solely blind chance Darwinism) – is far beyond any current religious tradition. Nonetheless NDE testimonies, and alleged contactees with benevolent ETs and higher dimensional beings paint a picture where Love as embodied in the life, death, teachings and resurrection of Jesus Christ – is key to meaning.
That said, there is most definitely a spiritual battle going on over this small planet in this outer arm of one average sized galaxy. Evil forces (powers and principalities) do rule. The human banksters and aristocratic cabal is reportedly in league with malevolent ETs and demonic entities. However there are whistleblowers and contactees that profess that our planet is surrounded by benevolent ETs and higher dimensional angelic forces as well. How this battle will progress does depend (in a multiverse where Divine Law respects the autonomy of free will/ conscious intentionality) on the collective decision making of humanity.
Thus waking the sheeple is vital for our collective future. But I think it needs to involve more open minded examination of all the evidence, and less biblical fundamentalism that blinkers viewpoints back to a more primitive cosmological perspective. As several NDE experiencers have pointed out – the main purpose of the Bible was to point to spiritual Truth highlighted in Jesus’ teaching, not to be an encyclopaedia about everything in existence.
As for the latest UFO/ET revelations, read some of the recent happenings on
Listen to some of James Gilliland recent interviews
Just thought I’d share these thoughts. Continue your great work. But must rush to my busy day job.
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