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HORRIFYING – MH17 CLAIM: Top pro-Russia Rebel Commander Says: “Victims may have died days before the plane took off”

[Ed. Note: Bix Weir sent us the link to this stunning article. If this account is true, not only does it lend to the mounting evidence that this was a false flag event, it also leads us to wonder if MH17 is really MH370 – or possibly the clone Malaysian Air 777 airliner photographed in Israel. However, we note that the claims made in this article are in direct contradiction with this public report: MH17 Passenger Published Video On Board Doomed Jet Before Take Off ]

from AP, via Yahoo News:

A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crash — suggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off.

The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,” adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

The Malaysia Airlines Boeing-777 was shot down Thursday, killing all 298 people aboard.

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29 comments to HORRIFYING – MH17 CLAIM: Top pro-Russia Rebel Commander Says: “Victims may have died days before the plane took off”

  • dutch

    Complete bullshit, the Netherlands (first world core empire country that reenthroned english royalty centuries ago) inhabitants are not that dumb, a multiple day gap would have been noticed and communicated by the relatives of the 192+ victims (via world class internet connectivity way ahead of usa). I’d love to see all mobile phone memories of the victims btw. The Rebels control these for now.

    • SGT

      Agreed about the relatives. Though one wonders given the 100’s of contradictions and remaining questions surrounding Sandy Hook (and families). We hesitate before posting information like this, however if AP and Yahoo News are going to publish it we feel it’s possibly valuable intel worth noting and tracking for the investigation in what otherwise appears to be a false flag event, regardless of this account.

      • Sam

        If nothing else about the already dead passengers statement is it does bring one to question just what the hell really happened – and that perhaps is the point to it.

        • Sam

          …this certainly does not need further investigation, so let’s just go with the ongoing ethnic cleansing gang who joyfully murders the civilians who oppose the take over of their once freely elected government 8-0

    • johns

      “If this account is true,”…….

      CREDIBLE journalism not only relies upon the reader or listener to discern truth from fiction, it also DEMANDS the journalist to present FACTS for the populace to discern between the two.
      You are walking a fine line with your own words.

      Since you and SGT among others, have become MAINSTREAM media, instead of “alternative”, act accordingly. We will all benefit.


    • johns

      “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,” adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.”….

      Your own video posted, confirms this.

      NO BLOOD,….. not even the individual disembowled… UPON IMPACT??????? from 30,000 feet???????????.

      NONE of the bodies show BLOOD, (it’s RED when fresh).

  • dutch

    ps I’m pro russian otherwise in this conflict

    • dutch

      I think for now its an honest mistake of the rebels that they are trying to cover up. (the unit men are probably already killed by Russia, if it was directly involved, or the rebels, to shut them up.)
      Possibly the Buk was baited by Kagan (Nudelman aka Nuland) Ukraine, by falsifiying plane identifiers and rerouting the plane. Theres also rumors of the plane having been accompanied by ukraine jetfighters. And Kiev traffic control tweets that Kagan Ukraine shot it down.
      Mobile phone video footage from onboard the plane as it was escorted or shot down would confirm this. For the 80+ children on board it would be second nature to film such events to at least local sd card or phone memory storage.

      • dutch

        ps. the Dutch government is a complete US/UK tool, but we’re also economically dependent on the mainland europe (german) economies, and we have very good ties with russia historically. (st Petersburg is modelled after Amsterdam), This would make Netherlands a good target for a false flag to wedge the EU from BRICS further by the USA agencies.
        The vibe in the Netherlands so far however isn’t very emotional as far as I can judge (apart from those directly affected) it feels more like an accident, people are waiting for more facts surrounding the crash.

  • Gnostic

    On Wednesday and Thursday, thousands of calls were made to members of the Senate Appropriations Committee asking them to oppose an additional $621 million in tax payer money for Israel’s missile defense programs for 2015 (part of the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, HR 4870). The same bill would cut $500 million from the American defense budget.

    The appropriations committee approved the extra funding to Israel yesterday morning in a unanimous voice vote, but the bill still has to go before the full Senate for debate and passage. We will initiate another round of calls as that date draws closer (likely in September).

    As most of you know, U.S. tax payers already give Israel $3.1 billion per year in directly military aid. On top of that, Congress has given Israel nearly $3 billion more for missile defense programs during 2006-2014.

    We must remember that lawmakers will not stand up to AIPAC overnight, as most of them face immense pressure. The good news, though, is that some staff members working for senators told us on the phone that the senators actually agreed with our position!

    Countering AIPAC requires us to build a grassroots movement of committed American voters who will vote according to candidates’ stances on Palestine, and who will also work for those candidates by ringing doorbells, making phone calls, etc.

    Thank you to all who took time to make these calls and who are helping us advance this movement!

    Best regards,

    The If Americans Knew team

  • Angel

    The Ed Note proceeding the article reminds us of the Malaysian 777 clone photographed in Israel, something that has never been explained. Then there’s the allegations that some of the victims appeared to have been long dead when the plane went down in the Ukraine. Hmm..

    Well, Israel DID launch the ground invasion of Gaza within hours of the plane incident. How convenient is that when the world’s attention is focused elsewhere? It’s called kill two birds with one stone.
    Read article:

    Admittedly, there are some factors that suggest the above scenario is unlikely, but knowing the elaborate hoaxes the black magicians have perpetrated in the past, I put NOTHING past them.

  • mangrove

    I still don’t get the photos (and alleged evidence) of bodies, which makes no sense if that plane was shot out of the sky at 33,000 feet. And there are just too many discrepancies from one photo to another.

    This picture shows a lot of destruction, and yet there are intact bodies in the foreground. And notice the hand, especially the thumb, on the arm with elbow in the air — it looks plastic to me.

    Now, this next picture just seems downright ridiculous and totally staged. It’s supposedly luggage and belongings retrieved from the crash site. What is wrong with this picture? I’m sorry, but how can this stuff be so clean and intact given how the crash site looks?

    Supposedly, 181 bodies have been recovered. Right.

    Oh yeah, gotta show the passports — all completely unscathed:

    BUT, here’s an extremely graphic video of some of the bodies — warning, extremely gruesome. Those do appear to be real people. Don’t watch this if you have a weak stomach:

    • dutch

      All are realistic, it all depends on how you fell attached to what debris pieces to brake the fall, at terminal (end speed, drag vs gravity) velocity. Theres no video to my knowledge of how the plane came down prior to the crash itself. Theres only a fake video of events days earlier when a cargo plane was struck with a burning right engine. Most bodies seem smashed to pulp with a sack of skin left. With a few exceptions that may have been attached to debris with more drag.

    • johns

      U.S. intelligence authorities said ……..

      Makes them sound “intelligent”….. hmmm

  • NaySayer

    I can’t name a single person in the current U.S. government that has enough credibiity for me to believe ANYTHING they say. If any of them including members of the supreme court, both houses and the white house or the military said the sky was blue I would have to go outside and check because I wouldn’t believe anything they said or wrote. Nothing. Except for Ron Paul (Not Rand, only Ron) I can’t think of anybody who used to be in government who I would believe anything they said either. Well maybe C. A. Fitts and Dr. P.C. Roberts.

    In my local news, athough the Missouri House and Senate passed a bill allowing specially trained school staff to carry concealed weapons to protect chidren in Missouri State public schools, Governor Jay Nixon (D) vetoed it. The house and senate may have enough votes to over-ride his veto.

    Apparently only the elite’s chidren should be protected by armed staff in private schools. Although there are many private and somewhat reasonably priced religious schools where the staff is allowed to protect the chidren under their care from possibe death.

  • anon

    Bombshell! Air Traffic Controller who was in Kiev said it was Ukrainian Military who shot down MH17 – Ukrainian Military Jets shadowing it

  • TheVirginian

    My wife wanted me to sit down and watch through the BBC’s newer Sherlock Holmes series and this type of plot (dead bodies in a plane that is to be “destroyed”) was used in one of the episodes.

    • NaySayer

      Yeah, I saw that one Sherlock episode. The UK government put already dead bodies on a plane that supposedly terrorists were going to blow up.

  • xman

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  • dan

    the on crash site video of wreckage , luggage, and bodies….reminds me of 911 flight 73 that crashed in PA….and the pentagon crash…oh I forgot in the 911 crashes I NEVER saw wreckage,luggage or bodies…dam my mind plays tricks on my eyes…how about yours….imho

  • LR

    True or not, unfortunately we live in very interesting times.

    Anyone else see that the president will be hiding out in Camp David this weekend during Lagarde’s 7/20/2014? These people are psychopaths.

    • Dissolution

      Interesting. Thanks for the heads-up.

    • Angel

      From the Huffington Post:

      “President Barack Obama is foregoing his usual round of weekend golf at a Washington suburban military base. Instead, he and his family are choosing what is for them a rare woodland getaway: a weekend at the presidential mountaintop retreat of Camp David.”

      They call it a “rare woodland getaway” because the family haven’t been to Camp David in nearly a year.

      Strange time for a “vacation” (even for a “President” famous for abusing the privilege), considering the extreme turmoil that’s brewing on the world stage, not to mention on a date referred to by the IMF witch as one that’s allegedly meaningful.

      It’s worth keeping our eyes and ears open, as we know how these Satanists operate.

  • Speros

    Bix Weir? Pffftt. You may as well listen to Karen Hudes as to this guy.

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