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Help Us SilverFishVT, We’re Addicted to Stacking!

This is the conversation ‘after the call’ with Alasdair Macleod in which we discuss the reasons most Americans won’t or can’t wake up. We also discuss the beauty of stacking physical precious metals, which is a way of SAVING for the future, a concept so foreign to most Americans that they criticize those who stack Ag and Au… which leads us to the SilverFishVT You Tube channel…

38 comments to Help Us SilverFishVT, We’re Addicted to Stacking!

  • Angel

    A nice compliment to my modest order placed with SD Bullion earlier this morning, which includes the latest Heroes Revolution round (featuring that famous Franklin quote).

    When I attempt to explain to people the fantastic feeling one can have when the act of saving money (REAL money, as in gold and silver) also happens to be a favorite hobby, they look at me like I have two heads. Their dollar-centric conditioning simply doesn’t allow them to appreciate the correlation.

    • NaySayer

      My local coin shop always avoided anything but talk about numismatic issues in their TV commercials. How they love coins and they have decades of experience. How they only dealt in american coins etc.

      But they finally did it, they started talking about government debt and econonomic strife and that is why people might want some gold and silver.

      • Angel

        My local coin shop is split half-way. The father refuses to believe the dollar is headed for the dust bin, but his son sees things realistically.

        Some people hold on to the programming until the reality is staring them in the face. As far as I’m concerned it already ought to be, but… There’s many others like me who shop there, and my gut tells me the old man will come around.

        Besides, they are well-stacked with gold and silver (and A LOT of “junk” silver), so they shouldn’t have any worries.

  • Jeff

    Enjoying the B side now SGT. Nice touch. Like Angel said above I love you remarks Sean about the rush of buying and you are not “consuming” but “saving”. Coincidentally I just received my latest 100 oz about 20 min ago in the mail. Most of it is my kids who are teenagers and they understand exactly what they are doing. Trading their valuable teenage time at part time jobs for “money”. I think they’ll be glad their old man taught them what real money is in the future.

    • Eric

      Good for you Jeff. We need more fathers like you.

    • SGT

      Thanks for tuning in Jef, just got back from Lacrosse with my son so just seeing all of these comments now. There’s nothing quite as nice as getting a delivery of precious metals, it’s always fun to open… and the family that stacks together STAYS together!

    • Ed_B

      Way to go, Jeff. Yes, teaching our children is a critical step in life, whether that be about respecting truth, having honor and integrity, being good citizens and community members, learning to know God, or the many aspects of personal finance, it all amounts to rounding out their lives and making them into better people. This will all come back to you many times over. Being a great parent is one of the top 3 things we can be in life. Those who make the effort to be great parents, which you are doing, are contributing greatly to our society as well as to their families and communities. It is difficult not to praise such people highly enough because this is a great service in so many ways. I tried to do that with our kids as well. They turned out to be decent people, so the effort has more than paid off. Being a parent is a terrific experience but one that takes some serious time, effort, and fiat. Teaching kids about money is a fine thing and is often skipped over by most parents. I tried to do that too, being successful with my son but not with my daughter. For her, whatever spends is money and what does not isn’t. Oh, well. One can lead a horse to water and all that… still, batting .500 isn’t that bad. I can always stack some extra for my daughter. The time is coming when she will very much appreciate the fact that her Dad wasn’t asleep at the switch as so many are today.

      Just remember, friends, this is not about finding vindication. We already KNOW that we are on the right side of this, that fiat will collapse one day, that we do not know when but that we do understand the inevitability of it. If our stacks don’t benefit us, then perhaps they will benefit our families. The same goes for the other preps we all collect, so whether it be food, water purification, tools, meds, fuel, seeds, or dozens of other things, it is all to the good and will help ensure that our families do as well as possible when the SHTF… which it will. One need only look at the way things are today and the huge changes that have occurred in our country over the past 10-15 years to know that. The trend is definitely not looking up.

  • PeterB

    Great stuff Sean, as always…

  • Eric

    Yea dig silverfish a lot. Pure common sense stacking tips! I just got 23 new eagles from the mint and as I was looking at them, I was thinking, wow these are nice. Right off the press. The saving is fun but the learning process has been the real empowering part of it all. Knowing where to find real value.

    Got the same problem you do Rory. Most of the older Americans don’t know what money is and don’t care. And at this point, it’s too scary for them to learn that the government doesn’t have their best interests in mind, and it is quite the opposite. I finally just tell people okay don’t do anything, just sit there. You deserve to lose your life savings for being so ignorant.

    Exopoliticstv Alfred Webre has a new interview with jay Parker I would recommend for anyone here. What I love about jay is he has overcome such horrible mind control and is out there doing his best to inform others, No nonsense! We have too many clowns and satanists.

    Funny point by Alasdair. My neighbor keeps buying the same overvalued stocks apple or alcoa, and when I ask why, he always says, “it’s going up!”
    I say, “well I hope you’re this excited when it goes down.”. He says, “no, it’ll never go down.”

    He keeps telling me price and I keep saying I don’t care! Value not price! You can’t help but laugh at how stupid and ignorant everyone still is. Trying not to be arrogant about it.

    Sadly, Americans are so brainwashed still this will only get harder for their brains to process this information as the deception is exposed.

    • Angel

      My late grandmother, who had lived through the depression, passed on to me not only her valuable knowledge regarding the importance of owning precious metals, but her vast coin collection as well. So, I learned to appreciate and enjoy this at a very young age.

      Unfortunately, most of THAT generation are long-deceased, and society no longer has the advantage of learning such valuable information from their elders the way they once did.

      It is now up to us to instill this in our own families (as Jeff has successfully done), but I’m afraid there aren’t very many of us around to have much of an impact. Besides that, normalcy bias and superficiality is now at epidemic proportions, even amongst us “old” people.

      • Eric

        Well then, I guess it’s up to us.

        We better double our efforts.

        Glad to hear you learned young Angel.

        It’s never too late to take back your power.

        Our elders never had the internet.

      • NaySayer

        Yeah, superficiality is horrible all over Amerika. It is actively enouraged to keep the public in a permanent adolescent state of being, sort of like being back in junior high school.

        I was watching this commercial for toothpaste and athough these are written by some crazy advertising hack at an agency, I often find it hilarious the arguments they try to use to get people to buy things.

        Usually for men they imply ony two things. 1. The man will get sex from desirable women if they use their product or 2. They are in “control” and “know who they are” if they use their product thus implying of course that only little powerless punks don’t use their product.

        Women usually get the following arguments: 1. Other women will talk behind their backs nd exclude them socially if they don’t use their product because they will smel bad or look bad. 2. They aren’t taking care of themselves or being powerful women who are smart and with it socially/spritually if they don’t buy their product.

        But this woman said in this toothpaste commercial that unless she used their product that SHE COULDN’T LIVE A GOOD LIFE AND BE WHO SHE WANTED TO BE. Serously. The message is you cannot have your dreams fufilled if your teeth don’t look “the way they should”. What????

        What is going to happen when the economy collapses and tens of millions of americans both male and female can’t get their hair gel? Or god forbid the right kind of toothpaste? They will freak and that is on top of going off of all the psychiatric meds.

      • Ed_B

        I could not agree more, Angel. IMHO, stacking is not an age-related thing at all. Stackers come in ALL ages. If anything, the older folks I know are the ones who appreciate the metals more than the younger ones. I’m 64 years young, so my grand parents were young adults and my parents were kids during the Great Depression. I have heard MANY stories from those days about how difficult it was to “get by” back then. Back then, people make what they needed or “made do” with what they had. Stores were filled with things but there was very little money with which to buy them. Anyone who had money in those days could get just about anything they wanted. The trick then was to HAVE MONEY. That same trick is still working because gold and silver ARE money today just as they were then. No, we can’t spend them directly but they are easily converted to fiat at any coin shop and most jewelry stores. Fiat is for spending and gold / silver are for holding and saving.

        The day is coming when the inherent value of fiat will be recognized for the junk that it is. When they day arrives, there will be very little that one can buy with it. Those who have real goods that have intrinsic value will want something in exchange for them that also has intrinsic value and not fiat paper, which does not. This will be particularly true for the really critical things in life, such as food and fuel. But do keep some fiat on hand. It’s good for paying our taxes and sending it back to its source seems appropriate. ;-)

  • John

    There are some very salient points in this extra 13 minute conversation.

    Consider this….

    If you hold cash, you “potentially” hold ZERO convertability to Gold and/or Silver.

    However if you hold Silver = You hold in perpetuity Silver itself, AND convertability to Cash, AND convertability to Gold.

    And if you hold Gold = You hold in perpetuity Gold itself, AND convertability to Cash, AND convertability to Silver.

    It is a no-brainer to hold precious metals. Sadly, many people are that Scarecrow in the Wizard of OZ!

  • silverguru

    SGT. Thanks for the site and the link to Provident. Got a great deal on some Maple Leafs that arrived today in mint condition.

  • John Lennon

    Love the B sides Sean! I am also addicted to stacking… love it for so many reasons. Best part.. I’ve never sold an oz! If it was a cash “savings”; it would be GONE! Best all.

  • ME

    FYI, historically a weeks worth of labor was an ounce of silver (two dimes a day), so if you purchase an ounce a week – you have saved a week of labor…

    Also historically, average home costs have been ~100 ounces of silver or two times years labor.

  • SK

    Is there any difference between 2014 eagle silver and older Eagles? Any recommendations? I find the 2014 cheaper, why?

    • SGT

      Sometimes the older ones go for slight premiums because they are no longer available, also older years have MUCH lower total mintages than the past few years which have been in the tens of millions of coins. That said, sometimes the older Silver Eagles are CHEAPER on Apmex, etc than the current year’s coin. But the DESIGN is identical from year to year and all SA’s are .999 pure silver.

      • SK

        Thanks a lot for your answer, SGT! So, effectively sliver is silver and worrying about the time when silver is what matters (not year or impress), do you agree that the cheapest (namely the newest) coins is just the right thing to acquire right now! More silver for the same dollars!

        • Angel

          Unless you plan on re-selling them for their “rarity” (for lack of a better word) in order to make a fiat profit.

          But should conditions become dicey enough, I believe such considerations might not exist in the eyes of those you are initiating the transaction with. In other words, silver is silver.

          Under such conditions, even some of the pricier numismatics might only be considered for their metal value, at least for a time. Obviously, such coins would be the last things you would want to part with.

        • SGT

          Hey SK, I personally prefer the government issued coins like the Eagles, Canadian Maples, ANYTHING from the Perth Mint – and paying the premium for those coins is worth it to me for a variety of reasons. So generally, for me, I’ll pay $3 bucks over spot for an Eagle or $4 over spot for a Kookaburra VS. .99 cents over spot for a generic round. If and when you sell, you;ll get the premium you paid back – or in the case of many of the Perth mint products (Kooks, Koalas) you’ll find the premiums are much much higher in consequent years b/c the mintages are so low. For instance, I paid $3.99 over spot when I bought a bunch of the 2012 Kookaburra’s when they were available in 2012, total mintage; 500,000 coins… now look at the price Apmex is asking for that “sold out” coin: $44
          http://www.apmex.com/product/62662/2012-1-oz-silver-australian-kookaburra

          Because of this, guys like me and brotherjohnf refer to the low mintage, government issued coins as “semi-numismatic” because they often appreciate in value well beyond anything a generic silver round is capable of doing. A generic silver round has no date, no historical value, and unlimited mintage – so nothing about it is special – therefore it will never be worth more than one ounce of silver.

          Unfortunately now the 2014 Kookaburra’s are $10 over spot at both Provident and Apmex – I have NEVER seen that before. I wouldn’t pay that premium. They have always been closer to $4 over spot. So my most recent silver purchase was 80 of these, total mintage 1 million coins – Available for only $2.59 over spot ANY QUANTITY (which is a BARGAIN!): http://www.providentmetals.com/2014-1-oz-silver-australian-saltwater-crocodile.html

          Here’s the 2014 Silver Koala for closer to $3.75 over spot, a good deal – but their site is being weird, it wouldn’t let me add more than 18 coins to my cart (I talked myself into buying some because of this research I’ve been doing for you.):
          http://www.providentmetals.com/2014-silver-koala-1-oz-australia-perth-mint-coin.html

          Here they are at Apmex:
          http://www.apmex.com/product/78112/2014-1-oz-silver-australian-koala

          There is no mintage limit on the 2014 Koalas for 12 months (5 months left in the run), however they have only sold 110,000 of these coins to date – so the total mintage when 2014 ends may well be VERY low, which will lead to soaring premiums on the 2014 coin in subsequent years.
          http://www.perthmint.com.au//documents/The_Australian_Koala_Silver_Bullion_Coin_Series_2007_-_2014.pdf

          Hope this perspective helps you. Happy stacking!

        • NaySayer

          Silver IS silver and you shouldn’t turn down salt/pepper shakers, silverware, jewelry or anything else if it helps you stack. Don’t turn down foreign coins either.

          I have a sterling silver charm collection. The kind that go on charm bracelets or can be worn on a chain around the neck. They weigh anywhere from .5 grams to 6 grams or even a little heavier. If you can pick them up for like $1 then you are getting more silver than from a dime and higher concentration at 92.5% sterling than the 90% american or 80% canadian money.

          Maybe because I am female that makes more sense to me, but if you guys out there can’t get your female famiy members to understand stacking, then I bet you they understand jewelry just fine!

          Does your brother’s family not understand stacking but you want them to have silver? Sterling keychains, or other tableware or picture frames are considered nice gifts and you just gave the some silver they can use when it crashes. You can buy them used on ebay every day for a very good price – no need to pay the horrific markup at a retail store. Just get some polish and shine it up.

          • Eric

            Yup!

            Picked up a dirty old silver plated bowl over 100 years old at the garage sale a few weeks ago for 10 bucks!

            Shined it up with my silver polish and poof! Shiny silver!

            Not a bad find at all.

            • NaySayer

              It is my belief that once it crashes and the world rejects dollars, then prices for real goods will be basically so high nobody can afford them, if they can buy anything at all for worthless dollars. Martial law will be called, they will issue ration “cards” for the anybody to get any access to food, meds or fuel.

              Underground free markets (a.k.a. Black) will spring up everywhere for people to exchange what goods they have, I tend to think these will be a natural outgrowth from our current farmers markets and larger swap meets that already exist. The Feds won’t approve of this and some areas of the country will declare these markets as “terrorist” activity and the police and DHS will ruthessly suppress them and in some areas those in authority will not follow any federal orders and protect the free markets or at least tolerate them because they don’t want to piss off a united citizenry who want them.

              People like me who live in the middle of the country might not get any new goods coming in at all from the coasts because they will be in chaos and any goods that might get delivered will probably be looted immediately. If some order is restored and armed convoys of trucks do make it to the midwest then only real money like gold, silver, copper or food crops will be accepted in return in my opinion. Prices will appear to fall horribly but really it will be a return to sane pricing in real and valuable commodity money. My sister in laws father who was born in 1927 tells that during the late 1940s a man could get all the baloney, cheese and bread his hand could grab for 5 cents for lunch from a vendor who came to their work site. That was the criteria he had, what a man’s hand could hold.

              People will be ransacking their own homes for things they might not have considered valuable before. Jewelry, sterling silverware, picture frames etc. They may take to scraping the silver coating off of silverplated items like that bowl you just got. You can get quite a lot of silver if you scrape the silver off of the back of a large mirror etc.

              They will be looking for that penny stash they had somewhere and going through it to find the 95% real copper pennies from before oct. 1982. Even the 97% zinc pennies made after that will have value as zinc is used to coat metal items to keep them from rusting, I believe and may be found to have other industrial applications.

              • Ed_B

                “If some order is restored and armed convoys of trucks do make it to the midwest then only real money like gold, silver, copper or food crops will be accepted in return in my opinion.”

                If such a time comes, virtually any manufactured good will be great trading material. Even simple things like matches, needles and thread, butane lighters, zippers, buttons, .22 ammo, string and rope, tarps, and just about everything that is difficult to make and useful but is now manufactured and cheap.

                IMO, after a huge crash of the fiat paper paradigm, we will see very little commerce carried on at a distance. Virtually everything will be local because shipping will be difficult. Fuel will be very hard to get and very expensive when found. Most of it will be use for Gov and emergency vehicles and aircraft. If citizens have access to it, it will be rationed at maybe 5-6 gallons per household per week.

                Agree 100% on the black markets. Yes, they will become sellers of stolen goods and for that reason the Gov will try to shut them down. But the people will want what they have there and will support any local politicians, including county sheriffs who protect these or at least turn a blind eye to what is going on there. This country is FAR too vast for the feds to do much about such things. They rely on the local city and state police and sheriff’s deputies for such things.

                Congrats on having a Gram who was so into PMs and saving her money in them. My grand parents were too poor to ever buy any or save any PMs but what they had was a wealth of experience that they were happy to share. I loved listening to stories of “the old days”. I would listen to them for hours at a time, remembering a lot of the details of what they said. Because of that and the fact that I awakened back in 2010, I stack silver and gold as my long-term savings plan. Yes, I have a number of investments but silver and gold are my financial insurance plan and my protection from both inflation (which I have seen in spades over the past 6+ decades of my life) and the possibility of currency devaluation… which seems to come closer with each passing week.

                • NaySayer

                  Yes, gasoline will be rationed. The Police/Fire/Ambulances will get anything the DHS/Military types dont take. I think locally there will be strong support for keeping any mass transit going. the bus system will be exanded to include smaller towns.

                  You NEED A BICYCLE FOR EACH FAMILY MEMBER WHO ISN’T TOO OLD/YOUNG to ride one. You may have to ride 5 miles to the bus stop, ride to the closest stop to your job, then get back on your bike to make it to work. This is a rural area so that is what it will take here.

                  I disagree that most goods at free markets will be “stolen”. People here in america have waaaaaay too much stuff and they will sell it at these free markets.

                  when it comes to “trade goods” the books I have read by Orlov and Ferfal state that lighters, booze, canned goods, bullets, propane tanks etc. will do very well.

                  I live in an area with great self-reliance already where people garden and can their own food, raise their own beef and have licenses to make moonshine etc. One item I bought for a trade good was a large pack of vacuum sealed whole vanilla beans. Why? some of you might ask that but if you can’t buy pre-packaged fast food from restaurants then where are you going to get food? What your wife/husband can cook is the answer. Unless it is all out Mad-Max, then people will be cooking their own food like they did back in the 30s. If you make any kind of dessert you will need vanilla and it can’t be grown in the u.s at least not outside the tropics.

                  Moonshine in a bottle with several slit open vanilla beans makes vanilla extract. If this goes on for more than a couple months then all the vanilla will be gone and a liquid ounce of vanilla will be highly desirable, impossible to find and it will sell for good prices (in silver or copper of course). I believe for a small amount of outlay I have made that I will be able to provide a valuable product into my local market.

  • Suzanne

    After the last stock market collapse, I took what was left of what had been some $130,000 (maybe $60,000 – pitiful) and purchased a couple of rifles, some food storage, and a lot of silver and some gold. I haven’t looked back except in pride.
    Now, most months I at least buy a couple of gram Pamp bars of gold.

    I genuinely try to get this knowledge that you purvey across to other people. I often send out the link to your site. Be aware that there are some people that we just cannot help. The great thing is that I am steadily running into people that are like us… questioning/ignoring the MSM and preparing for the worst while praying for the best.

    • Ed_B

      Suzanne, that is a noble gesture on your part and I have to confess that I did some of that in years past as well. But, the problem is that, as you have found, we just can’t reach very many people with the truth of our situation. They simply do not want to hear it. It is just too unpleasant for them to consider. It forces them out of their comfort zone and into a place they just do not want to be. Unfortunately, YOU will be the person they remember when the SHTF. They will remember that you are prepared, that you have silver and gold, and that you have food and water. They will be in desperate need of these things and they will expect you to share what you have with them. They will not consider that by doing so, you could well doom yourself and your family. None of us knows when a collapse will occur or for how long it will last, so how can we know how much of our vital supplies can be shared? The answer is that we do not know and therefore cannot share much of what we have. I would welcome friends into my home who came with their arms filled with preps but those arriving with only empty bellies will not be welcome. Is this harsh on my part? Maybe so, but it is also damned realistic, IMO.

  • SK

    Thanks all for the interesting comments! I asked myself why just silver is the focus? How about gold?

    • NaySayer

      Who can afford gold? Some of us (maybe a lot) can’t afford it. Plus silver is more manipulated and thus I believe it will go up more in price in the end.

    • Angel

      Many of us can afford gold in fractional amounts, which is what I suggest you do, along with silver. Check out the online pm sites and consider picking up some 1/20, 1/10, 1/4, etc. Or amounts in grams is also good idea.

      If you really feel ambitious, you can buy it by the ounce.

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